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    Automatic rifles, when would their non-military use be warranted?

    I've heard (Variations of) this question a lot, and it has me legitimately curious. Be as outlandish as you need to.

    First things that comes to mind: Bearmageddon, or any other large scale animal uprising.

    Potentially any disaster large enough to seriously destabilize the government/infrastructure could make them at the very least useful... until you run out of bullets anyway.

    Any situation in which there is no military.
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    Re: Automatic rifles, when would their non-military use be warranted?

    Essentially, automatic weapons are a bad choice for anybody who does not have a large support structure behind them. They are not especially accurate when operating at full throttle, and go through ammo at an astonishing rate. Unless you have a good supply of ammo (20 -30,000 rounds) you are much better off with a bolt action rifle, and good hiding places in pretty much any situation - except a full on fire fight.

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      Re: Automatic rifles, when would their non-military use be warranted?

      What about suppressive fire?
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        Re: Automatic rifles, when would their non-military use be warranted?

        Originally posted by Denarius View Post
        What about suppressive fire?
        Again, only if you have the support structure behind you.

        Otherwise, shoot from hiding, and disappear into the woodwork...
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          #5
          Re: Automatic rifles, when would their non-military use be warranted?

          Zombies. A mob of zombies.

          But when the ZA goes down, I'd prefer to have a Devil's Paintbrush at my disposal.
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            Re: Automatic rifles, when would their non-military use be warranted?

            Originally posted by perzephone View Post
            But when the ZA goes down, I'd prefer to have a Devil's Paintbrush at my disposal.
            Ok, now I have to ask... What's a Devil's Paintbrush?
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              #7
              Re: Automatic rifles, when would their non-military use be warranted?

              I don't think any type of automatic rifle would be particularly effective against zombies, unless they were those living zombies. (Which are actually ghouls as far as I am concerned.)

              I'd put the likelihood of getting a proper headshot at less than one in four, and that's with extensive training. If there was a zombie apocalypse, I'd save my clips for raiders.
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                #8
                Re: Automatic rifles, when would their non-military use be warranted?

                As Corbin pointed out; there is no real usefulness of handheld automatic weapons. Very inaccurate and wasteful.

                Semi-auto is another story... But like Corbin, I love my bolt
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                  #9
                  Re: Automatic rifles, when would their non-military use be warranted?

                  Never. Totally unnecessary.

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                    #10
                    Re: Automatic rifles, when would their non-military use be warranted?

                    World record for most bullets fired.
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                      Re: Automatic rifles, when would their non-military use be warranted?

                      Originally posted by DanieMarie View Post
                      Never. Totally unnecessary.
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                        Re: Automatic rifles, when would their non-military use be warranted?

                        Originally posted by volcaniclastic View Post
                        But a ridiculous amount of fun.
                        that is certainly true.
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                          Re: Automatic rifles, when would their non-military use be warranted?

                          Having done target shooting and being familiar with automatic weapons from the service I would have to agree with B. De. about them. A waste of ammo unless as you said suppressive fire. Hide and shoot makes sense because if you do rapid fire you become a max target. As for automatic weapons in civilian hands perhaps no unless the person was trained and understands their drawbacks and their positive traits and uses them with caution. A bolt or semi automatic rifle or handgun makes more sense,and it would be a good skill if one knew how to do reloading.
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                            Re: Automatic rifles, when would their non-military use be warranted?

                            not for real: zombie apocalypse and pruning the hedges

                            for real: for fun
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                              Re: Automatic rifles, when would their non-military use be warranted?

                              Originally posted by thalassa View Post
                              not for real: zombie apocalypse and pruning the hedges

                              for real: for fun
                              Monk & I cleared a 300 yard shooting range with mostly bolts, but it took months of hard work...

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