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    #46
    Re: Automatic rifles, when would their non-military use be warranted?

    Originally posted by ChainLightning View Post
    Okay. Now, would that still work in something, say, the size of the above shown oiler? And since it's zombies we're talking about, and not people, will the sludge ferment into more of an oil base, than an alcohol base?

    I'm thinking of modifying an oiler to double as a sort of pressure cooker for conveniently turning zombies (alive or dead, doesn't matter) into fuel for the Wisconsin. The process would be sealed, for the most part, reducing the foul odor issue to a great extent. It's just the volatility and viscosity of the end product that I'm more concerned about.


    I need to know the efficacy! Who's up for some experiments?
    I think its viable...here's why:

    A team of engineers are trying to mimic the process in nature that forms crude oil with marine organisms, and have developed a method to pressure cook algae and turn it into crude



    the problem is the smell... http://www.chem.info/News/2010/04/Pl...a-Clean-Start/
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      #47
      Re: Automatic rifles, when would their non-military use be warranted?

      Originally posted by ChainLightning View Post
      Okay. Now, would that still work in something, say, the size of the above shown oiler? And since it's zombies we're talking about, and not people, will the sludge ferment into more of an oil base, than an alcohol base?

      I'm thinking of modifying an oiler to double as a sort of pressure cooker for conveniently turning zombies (alive or dead, doesn't matter) into fuel for the Wisconsin. The process would be sealed, for the most part, reducing the foul odor issue to a great extent. It's just the volatility and viscosity of the end product that I'm more concerned about.


      I need to know the efficacy! Who's up for some experiments?
      If it doesn't have a release valve dont you get a zombie goo explosion?I think that the smell is going to be a problem, and that it nees to be isolated, like really isolated, like floating island surrounded by sharks isolated... If it turns out alcohol based, it could probably be processed like ethanol.
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        #48
        Re: Automatic rifles, when would their non-military use be warranted?

        So, that signed, sealed and delivered isolation of a floating oiler, and pressure cooker, kicking out 2-300 barrels of oil per day, could only, realistically refuel an Iowa class, probably, just once every three months, or so. Not good enough. I think it's got to hit higher production levels, maybe up to 300+% better.

        Still, that leaves crews and ammo to yet to find and acquire. (Ammo - I wonder if volkswagons would work.) Oh! And landing parties, to restock the beer and pretzels.

        Maybe, some well armed guards for the zombie farms? Where fodder is collected for the floating pressure cooker.





        There's also a major concern, I have, regarding supplies of rounds for each and every person to keep their full automatics full. A wave of 150 zombies and nothing but empty magazines and clips can be kind of disheartening.




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          #49
          Re: Automatic rifles, when would their non-military use be warranted?

          Reserve full auto for squad weapons, full auto rifles tend to climb and f accuracy anyway. Train the rest of your teams for accuracy and have them using 3 round burst instead. Also, armored vehichles. Zombies aren't gonna be using explosives so you can get away with things that you really shouldn't do against human opposition and roadkill creation doesn't burn bullets.
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            #50
            Re: Automatic rifles, when would their non-military use be warranted?

            Originally posted by MaskedOne View Post
            Reserve full auto for squad weapons, full auto rifles tend to climb and f accuracy anyway. Train the rest of your teams for accuracy and have them using 3 round burst instead. Also, armored vehichles. Zombies aren't gonna be using explosives so you can get away with things that you really shouldn't do against human opposition and roadkill creation doesn't burn bullets.
            I am personally fond of the "one shot, one kill" rule. Most people cannot manage that, though and should be doing other tasks. Anyone with a strong arm could be counted on to be able to back up with some full auto if nessecary, and poor shots are much better used as ammo carriers/reloaders anyway. It never hurts to have an assistant gunner, and panickers should not be allowed to handle firearms anyway, (though I imagine if you are very panicky you won't last long anyway.)
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