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    Amish hate crimes?

    Well, what do you know?

    Everybody's favorite peaceful religion, the Amish, have decided to join in with the rest of the 21st century and indulge in hate crimes against folks who don't agree with them. In this case, according to the article, an authoritarian Amish group is running around cutting the beards off people who defied their leader. There is also the suggestion of some secret sexy shenanigans, although the article doesn't go into details.

    Damn them! Why don't they just go on a shooting rampage like everybody else?
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    If anyone, Amish or otherwise, comes near my beard I will rip off his balls.
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      #3
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      Interesting. Further proof IMO that the harder you crack down, the more really creepy stuff comes wiggling up all around the edges.
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        If I had a beard, I'd start carrying a machete. Ain't nobody gonna get between me and my theoretical facial hair. Ain't nobody​.

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          Are the Amish pacifists, or do they just eschew technology, or both?
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            Originally posted by thalassa View Post
            Are the Amish pacifists, or do they just eschew technology, or both?
            I'm not entirely sure, but I think it's both.

            Just checked - yes, and conscientious objectors as well.
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              this has got to be the "nicest" hate crime I have ever read about... at least no one got lynched... I mean its still bad, but 8 years for the "shavening" seems a wee bit excessive...
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                Well, the beard is important in Amish culture. Married men are not supposed to cut their beards, and so it's some kind of huge insult to shave someone.
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                  Originally posted by B. de Corbin View Post
                  Well, the beard is important in Amish culture. Married men are not supposed to cut their beards, and so it's some kind of huge insult to shave someone.
                  I get that, I just think that as far as hate crimes go, there are worse people to deal with...
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                    I'm sorry, the ringleader's last name is 'Mullet' and I just can't take him seriously as a terrorist.
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                      And, not to mention, the visually imagined scene in which the bearded Mullets grapple and shave some other Amish guy (a Yoder?) is filled with comedic possibilities... Mel Brooks would have a riot with it.
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                        Really this kinda bothers me because I have always considered the Amish as so peaceful and nice. But every belief does tend to sometimes breed people that think they have something better for you even though you don't want it. These people tried to force something on the others. That to me is very sad.
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                          Originally posted by B. de Corbin View Post
                          And, not to mention, the visually imagined scene in which the bearded Mullets grapple and shave some other Amish guy (a Yoder?) is filled with comedic possibilities... Mel Brooks would have a riot with it.
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                            I used to live in the middle of Amish territory here in Iowa. Literally had Amish communities within five minutes of my hometown. They have just as many problems as everyone else does. They're just so far outside regular society that no one ever really investigates them.

                            I had a friend who lived about half a mile from an Amish family and often played with their children, they told her how they were molested at home, in vague terms because they didn't really know what they were talking about. Words like rape, molestation, or even penis and vagina are like forbidden.

                            And there are always the rumors of sex acts with animals. That's not to say the whole community is corrupt, but they do have the occasional folks with big problems.

                            Also, they have a high number of disable children from inbreeding. This is slowly being corrected by a nationwide exchange program.
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                              I met and spoke with a good number of Amish folks when I lived in Iowa. Beliefs and traditions aside, they're quite definitely just regular PEOPLE. Mostly kind and thoughtful but peppered with the same manner of prejudices and bigotry as the rest of the world. As aloof as everyone seems to treat, or at least consider them, they aren't.

                              Just people going about doing things differently. In some ways better and in some ways worse, all depending on your [cultural] perspective.

                              A hate crime? This isn't new. But reporting on it, or even knowing about it TO report on it, is rather out of the ordinary.




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