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    Re: Uses/Growing of Posinious Herbs and Flowers

    Quote Originally Posted by Norse_Angel View Post
    This is great! I just have to put trust into I guess. But it is missing a couple I do want. Absinthe would be awesome to grow, but again, quite hard to find
    The herbs for absinthe are easy to find. Absinthe itself is not all that easy to make--you have to distill it (so you need the set up for distillation). But there are easier "homemade" infused alcohol versions.

    There are three main herbs that make the absinthe flavor--common wormwood, anise, and fennel. Artemisia absinthium is the specific variety of wormwood...heck, it grows here as a weed, it is what you get the woo factor from (from the thujone). Green anise (Pimpinella anisum) contains anethol, which is also reputed to have psychotropic effects--its also what gives absinthe the clouding effect when you add water (like in Rakı). Sweet fennel (Foeniculum vulgare) is similar in flavor and chemical composition to anise, but the flavor is different enough that it compliments the other two. To be absinthe, these three herbs are pretty much a must-have, but there are other herbs too that are commonly included.

    The rest of the herbs that often show up in various absinthe include calamus, star anise, angelica, corriader, hyssop, lemon balm, roman chamomile, small wormwood (Artemisia pontica), peppermint (a variety of mints really), lemon peel, and veronica (aka speedwell). At least one historical commercially available was a pink absinthe, made with hibiscus (which is tart like lemon...also how I make pink lemonade).
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    Re: Uses/Growing of Posinious Herbs and Flowers

    Also, I recommend a thorough reading of Erowid's pages on any particular plant you are interested in using for buzzing purposes (Erowid's wormwood page).

    Also, I forgot to add that the woo factor is debatable..and there is tons of misinformation about absinthe anyhow.

    An infused absinthe recipe because home distillation of alcohol, even for personal use, is technically illegal.

    ETA: Absinthe is traditionally made by secondary distillation (the herbs were macerated into (usually) distilled wine spirits (eau de vie), before being distilled again...most of the effect of absinthe is from really high amounts of alcohol and the placebo effect of expecting to get really effed up from what are really mild acting herbs.
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    Re: Uses/Growing of Posinious Herbs and Flowers

    I'm not trying to make the drink, I've already had my experiences with brewing. We made wine a couple times... If you could get a cross between the strongest liquor you've ever drank, and a very bold dark wine, you'd have what we made. We had to take shots of it, idk how we did it. I still have some, and it looks like it's eating through the water bottle.
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    Re: Uses/Growing of Posinious Herbs and Flowers

    I have a soft spot for Datura in general, and while I would love to keep one of my own... it's probably not the best idea with a little fur baby in the house. They sure are pretty to look at though. ^^

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    Re: Uses/Growing of Posinious Herbs and Flowers

    Quote Originally Posted by Ljubezen View Post
    I have a soft spot for Datura in general, and while I would love to keep one of my own... it's probably not the best idea with a little fur baby in the house. They sure are pretty to look at though. ^^
    They are beautiful - I grew a variety with huge, velvety black trumpets. Right now, I've got a 8 year old Brugmansia (Tree Datura) that drops giant salmon-colored trumpets (cats don't bother it).

    UNBELEIVABLE smell when it flowers. Wonderful!
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    Re: Uses/Growing of Posinious Herbs and Flowers

    Quote Originally Posted by B. de Corbin View Post
    They are beautiful - I grew a variety with huge, velvety black trumpets. Right now, I've got a 8 year old Brugmansia (Tree Datura) that drops giant salmon-colored trumpets (cats don't bother it).

    UNBELEIVABLE smell when it flowers. Wonderful!
    That sounds really pretty. Smart cats! ^^

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