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    Re: We are the root of all evil

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    im up for headgear. Can I go with a Darth Vadar headpiece? I would sound awesome at work.

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    Thinking.....pork pie hats maybe..

    Or is that to hipster kinda??
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    Re: We are the root of all evil

    I'll get my pork pie and my trilby ready
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    Re: We are the root of all evil

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    Well if it makes you feel any better...they all hate you too
    YAY!!!

    They hate me too!!!




    Actually, I found it interesting that they only asked about Abrahamic religions AND atheism...like those are the only choices. It doesn't surprise me that it creates an Us vs Them environment. Its unfortunate and disappointing, of course--but unsurprising.
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    Re: We are the root of all evil

    Quote Originally Posted by thalassa View Post
    YAY!!!

    They hate me too!!!




    Actually, I found it interesting that they only asked about Abrahamic religions AND atheism...like those are the only choices. It doesn't surprise me that it creates an Us vs Them environment. Its unfortunate and disappointing, of course--but unsurprising.
    But don't you know those ARE the only choices. Everyone else is delusional and lost, we of course will eventually find the true path . Duce I like to think its not really hate but jealousy. They are jealous that we are so much happier and secure in ourselves.

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    Re: We are the root of all evil

    Quote Originally Posted by B. de Corbin View Post
    Relax youse guys! We're just the "not" people...

    We're not telling you what to do, we're not telling you what to think, we're not not telling you how to spend your time, we're not telling you what your sex should be, we're not claiming to have special knowledge...

    It's the "are" people you want to watch out for, IMHO.
    Well. I spent most of my life as an atheist, the first 27 years, and though I've been a believer in Jehovah God and the Bible for just over 20 years, I would have to say I agree that the "are" people, as you call them are the ones specifically we have to watch out for, I would emphasize that it is the people in general that "are" the problem.

    Militant atheists are a minority among the atheists who are a minority themselves. The majority of atheists are not emotionally or politically motivated to project an agenda or in any real way indulge in a conflict with the opposition. They see it as a nonissue. That has been my experience. Militant atheist, on the other hand, I think, would fall victim to the same mindset and oppression of ideas as the religious always have. It's human nature. It isn't the religion, or worse, politics and nationalism, traditions, culture, race or money that divides us, and tears us apart, it is we ourselves.

    If you don't believe me go into any atheist forum as a Christian or just watch one be torn apart as if they were in the Lion's Den.

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    Re: We are the root of all evil

    Don't Christians go specifically to atheist forums for the purpose of becoming martyrs by being torn apart?

    Or is it that they expect to bring the word of a non-existent god to the ignorant?

    In either case, it's hard to feel sorry for someone who goes into the lions's den to commit suicide, or in the belief that a carnivore can be convinced to turn vegan.
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    Re: We are the root of all evil

    the belief that a carnivore can be convinced to turn vegan.

    Yeh,tell that to a hungry Cat....
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    Re: We are the root of all evil

    Quote Originally Posted by anunitu View Post
    the belief that a carnivore can be convinced to turn vegan.

    Yeh,tell that to a hungry Cat....
    Especially when it's done by talking meat that believes it has holy power...
    Those who have suffered understand suffering and therefore extend their hand.

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    Re: We are the root of all evil

    Just my thought,and gonna put something I posted elsewhere here.

    I think a real good sign of a positive belief is,if it allows you to joke about your deity without all the fire and brimstone coming down on you,AND you can hear the God or Goddess laughing at themselves...
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    Re: We are the root of all evil

    Quote Originally Posted by B. de Corbin View Post
    Don't Christians go specifically to atheist forums for the purpose of becoming martyrs by being torn apart?

    Or is it that they expect to bring the word of a non-existent god to the ignorant?

    In either case, it's hard to feel sorry for someone who goes into the lions's den to commit suicide, or in the belief that a carnivore can be convinced to turn vegan.
    Strangely, about half or more of the Christians who join PF aren't looking to get shredded or wage campaigns of conversion against Pagans. Are Atheists particularly special that they get targeted above and beyond other non-believers.

    EDIT: and before it comes up, that ratio includes the preachy ones that the staff bans
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