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    the meaning to it all, temptation from the left hand path

    Well good day, evening, night to you.

    I have been so confused recently regarding what I believe in, I am constantly reading about all the different beliefs. Now I feel like I am unsure of what is real to the very being of me.

    I am not sure what's going on, I am more interested to the whole left hand path way of doing things, I haven't really converted (if I might call it that) to the opposite of what I think I believe in.. but I am tempted to delve into the other side (left hand paths), but I guess I am a bit afraid of what I might discover...

    I guess what I am getting at is.. I need advise on how to progress through this trap I am stuck in ..

    it would be nice to get perspective from a left hand practitioners' take on the above?

    thank you in advance!

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    Re: the meaning to it all, temptation from the left hand path

    Before I moved to the left hand path, I had to be vigilant in finding out what I did believe. Which is hard when you are confused and getting all sorts of information from various sources. For me, the best thing was to first burn away and rid myself of all the things I didn't believe in. That I held false and untrue. Only then could I go toward a path and not running from a path. You need a clean slate first. You do not, nor should not need a path to tell you what you first believe in. That's just a sheep in a different cloth. Ask yourself what you believe. What is important to you. Your values. What you deem wrong and right and just. Then look toward a path that follows YOUR views, not the other way around.
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    Re: the meaning to it all, temptation from the left hand path

    IMO, this is what you should do LHP, or not:

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    Before I moved to the left hand path, I had to be vigilant in finding out what I did believe. Which is hard when you are confused and getting all sorts of information from various sources. For me, the best thing was to first burn away and rid myself of all the things I didn't believe in. That I held false and untrue. Only then could I go toward a path and not running from a path. You need a clean slate first. You do not, nor should not need a path to tell you what you first believe in. That's just a sheep in a different cloth. Ask yourself what you believe. What is important to you. Your values. What you deem wrong and right and just. Then look toward a path that follows YOUR views, not the other way around.
    “You have never answered but you did not need to. If I stand at the ocean I can hear you with your thousand voices. Sometimes you shout, hilarious laughter that taunts all questions. Other nights you are silent as death, a mirror in which the stars show themselves. Then I think you want to tell me something, but you never do. Of course I know I have written letters to no-one. But what if I find a trident tomorrow?" ~~Letters to Poseidon, Cees Nooteboom

    “We still carry this primal relationship to the Earth within our consciousness, even if we have long forgotten it. It is a primal recognition of the wonder, beauty, and divine nature of the Earth. It is a felt reverence for all that exists. Once we bring this foundational quality into our consciousness, we will be able to respond to our present man-made crisis from a place of balance, in which our actions will be grounded in an attitude of respect for all of life. This is the nature of real sustainability.”
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    Re: the meaning to it all, temptation from the left hand path

    by ridding oneself from what you don't believe in, how do you go about doing that ? should I also rid myself of anything I hold as true to my beliefs? I hope these questions won't come off as stupid.. I just need another perspective. . I have always thought of just burning away all my believe and unbelief but never knew how to go about it

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    Re: the meaning to it all, temptation from the left hand path

    Quote Originally Posted by motherearth View Post
    by ridding oneself from what you don't believe in, how do you go about doing that ? should I also rid myself of anything I hold as true to my beliefs? I hope these questions won't come off as stupid.. I just need another perspective. . I have always thought of just burning away all my believe and unbelief but never knew how to go about it
    On a piece of paper write all the things related to this you believe to be true.
    And then write what you don't believe is true.

    This sounds easy. This will take you a long time. And it should. You may find answers you weren't even looking for.

    People now a days want a journey to be A to B and to be over in a week.
    We are talking about the most fundamental beliefs you have. THE very thing you hold to be true of your world. Don't rush it. Question everything. Listen a lot and absorb before you make a statement of your belief. If you want, list things you believe and don't right here. We won't judge.
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    Re: the meaning to it all, temptation from the left hand path

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    On a piece of paper write all the things related to this you believe to be true.
    And then write what you don't believe is true.

    This sounds easy. This will take you a long time. And it should. You may find answers you weren't even looking for.

    People now a days want a journey to be A to B and to be over in a week.
    We are talking about the most fundamental beliefs you have. THE very thing you hold to be true of your world. Don't rush it. Question everything. Listen a lot and absorb before you make a statement of your belief. If you want, list things you believe and don't right here. We won't judge.
    Medusa makes fun of it...but...

    Try starting here. Its not comprehensive...but its a place to begin.
    “You have never answered but you did not need to. If I stand at the ocean I can hear you with your thousand voices. Sometimes you shout, hilarious laughter that taunts all questions. Other nights you are silent as death, a mirror in which the stars show themselves. Then I think you want to tell me something, but you never do. Of course I know I have written letters to no-one. But what if I find a trident tomorrow?" ~~Letters to Poseidon, Cees Nooteboom

    “We still carry this primal relationship to the Earth within our consciousness, even if we have long forgotten it. It is a primal recognition of the wonder, beauty, and divine nature of the Earth. It is a felt reverence for all that exists. Once we bring this foundational quality into our consciousness, we will be able to respond to our present man-made crisis from a place of balance, in which our actions will be grounded in an attitude of respect for all of life. This is the nature of real sustainability.”
    ~~Llewellyn Vaughan-Lee

    "We are the offspring of history, and must establish our own paths in this most diverse and interesting of conceivable universes--one indifferent to our suffering, and therefore offering us maximal freedom to thrive, or to fail, in our own chosen way."
    ~~Stephen Jay Gould, Wonderful Life: The Burgess Shale and the Nature of History

    "Humans are not rational creatures. Now, logic and rationality are very helpful tools, but there’s also a place for embracing our subjectivity and thinking symbolically. Sometimes what our so-called higher thinking can’t or won’t see, our older, more primitive intuition will." John Beckett

    Pagan Devotionals, because the wind and the rain is our Bible

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    Re: the meaning to it all, temptation from the left hand path

    It's important to remember that LHP are very individualistic and stress the ideals that your path is personal, not universal. LHP strongly encourage free thought, logic, skepticism, and questioning everything rather than blindly following any set of rules or adhering to dogma. The idea that "everyone must _____" or "no one should _____" are completely at odds with LHP. Again, it's individualistic and highly reliant on the 'follower' to decide for themselves what is not cognitively dissonant with their personal values, morals, and standards (and what makes the most sense).

    So, when you say
    Quote Originally Posted by motherearth View Post
    ...I guess I am a bit afraid of what I might discover...
    you need only worry about what is in your own mind. LHP have been known to be taboo from 'right-handed path followers,' primarily for the LHP's acceptance of various unorthodox methods, such as blood magic, sex magic, challenging societal norms and living in direct opposition to them, etc. Furthermore, LHP tends not to separate 'mind, body, and spirit,' viewing humans as whole and complete and not inherently sinful when we indulge in pleasures without shame. However, it should be noted that, while LHP tend to attract those interested in the occult, there is no shame in adhering to a LHP philosophy without the bells and whistles of magic. Myself, for example, do not use rituals or spells very often, but I view the world through LHP glasses, so to speak. It interpenetrates every part of my life without being a religion to me.

    So, to start, I'd ask myself these three questions: Do I believe in deities of any kind? Do I believe in Satan or do I simply admire the character? Am I interested in practicing magic?
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