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    This should prove interesting,militery working on transgender inclusion

    http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/...er-ban-n391291

    Pentagon to Services: Prepare to Include Transgender Troops

    So,what say you...your opinion,your thoughts.
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    Re: This should prove interesting,militery working on transgender inclusion

    There's no reason they shouldn't be allowed to in the first place. If you want to fight for your country, it shouldn't matter what sexual orientation, gender, religious, or ethnicity you fall into.
    "In the shade now tall forms are advancing,
    And their wan hands like snowflakes in the moonlight are gleaming;
    They beckon, they whisper, 'Oh! strong armed in valor,
    The pale guests await thee - mead foams in Valhalla.'"
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      #3
      Re: This should prove interesting,militery working on transgender inclusion

      I will give anyone props if they want to serve..when I went in the Navy,it was only a choice as far as what branch to go in,not if I wanted in at all.
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        #4
        Re: This should prove interesting,militery working on transgender inclusion

        Fully for it! Okay, I'm biased I guess, as I'm a part of the LGBT community as well. But I mean, it's not like being trans in any way hinders anyone's ability to serve!
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          Re: This should prove interesting,militery working on transgender inclusion

          I am just a bit surprised things have evolved so quickly...Remember I grew up even before civil rights for blacks was fully finished. So,as I considered how long things took,this seems almost magic because I know how the military used to think about even blacks in the ranks.
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            Re: This should prove interesting,militery working on transgender inclusion

            Originally posted by anunitu View Post
            I am just a bit surprised things have evolved so quickly...Remember I grew up even before civil rights for blacks was fully finished. So,as I considered how long things took,this seems almost magic because I know how the military used to think about even blacks in the ranks.
            You're so right.

            But then, this particular issue is one of the reasons I left Christianity. Too much hatred. Not just against LGBT, but just in general.

            It is weird to think, especially for those who have been around longer, like you........

            Being raised by a Catholic weirdly enough had no affect on me save for me not knowing what Lesbian meant until I found it out for myself, because my mother refuses to talk about it. I never saw any problems that others did though.....
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              Re: This should prove interesting,militery working on transgender inclusion

              Truthfully I think it will depend on the individual and how they present themselves. Lots of things still happen in the dark when sailors go overboard or troops get killed or fragged by their own people. The bad part is the military gets "Ordered" to make things happen and appear to work and the reports will show both support for it and success with it regardless of the actual costs. That ordered aspect seems to be the aspect so frequently forgotten by the press and the civilian populations as they show how it works in the military on the surface.

              Far to many seem to think because the military is a micocosim of the US as a whole what works there will be workable in the civilian sector. Yet it's a whole different spectrum and punishments are unlike what the civilian sector can face.

              Rape and such surely didn't go down in number's after Tail Hook regardless of how much political play it received in the civilian government and press. Making it acceptable by legality does not mean those who would act upon it won't do so anyway.
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                Re: This should prove interesting,militery working on transgender inclusion

                As a person, I have no problem with this. As veteran I forsee huge problems with actually implementing this. The military still can't get females serving right...it may be unfair, but they are't institutionally ready for biological females that feel like men and vice versa.
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                  Re: This should prove interesting,militery working on transgender inclusion

                  The problem isn't particularly with transgender service members themselves but the misogony, homophobia, and ignorance that generally pervades military culture.

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                    Re: This should prove interesting,militery working on transgender inclusion

                    Hay PM,LTNS>>>Welcome back.
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                      Re: This should prove interesting,militery working on transgender inclusion

                      Originally posted by ThePaganMafia View Post
                      The problem isn't particularly with transgender service members themselves but the misogony, homophobia, and ignorance that generally pervades military culture.

                      I think this depends greatly (though not entirely) on 2 things--- 1) branch of service, 2) chain of command.

                      1) the military needs to do a better job at screening recruits
                      2) the military needs to do a better job at weeding out bigotry (by which I mean kicking them out)
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                        Re: This should prove interesting,militery working on transgender inclusion

                        Originally posted by thalassa View Post
                        As a person, I have no problem with this. As veteran I forsee huge problems with actually implementing this. The military still can't get females serving right...it may be unfair, but they are't institutionally ready for biological females that feel like men and vice versa.
                        This. And is a trans person going to feel comfortable in a group shower? a female already gets shit for having different pt standards than a male, a trans person stands to take direct criticism and targeting based o. Things they themselves cannot control. Rape is already a huge issue in the military, some people would just be announcing themselves as targets. The whole thing scares me, no one should be barred from serving if they are healthy enough to, but I worked with people who couldn't handle that I was female, if I'd wanted to be male they wouldn't have even bothered acknowledging me...
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