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    Re: Pop Culture Paganism

    Quote Originally Posted by Rae'ya View Post
    I have no issue with Pop Culture Paganism, and I think that it can quite easily fit into several different forms of belief in 'entities'. Pop culture icons provide quite good foci for the worship or reverence of a conceptual figure, particularly if it's one that you are very familiar with. Pop culture icons often fit easily into typical Archetypal characters, and therefore can be used to embody any of those Archetypes just as effectively as any other entity. And if we choose to be literal, I absolutely do believe that there are a number of pop culture icons who have enough backing behind them to have become a sort of group egregore and therefore can be considered to be an actual entity.

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    Re: Pop Culture Paganism

    I can't really say I ever found say a media figure to invoke a spiritual connection,not for myself at least. I have at times known people that became much deeper involved with them. I knew a guy that could be said to revere "James bond" and others that found super heroes(Comic,movie,graphic novel) to be worthy of elevation to idol of a sort. My take is,what ever helps you and your interaction with what can only be described as our chaotic real life interactions in human culture. I would at times consider a stiff drink something of a needed connection with the spirits to help cope with the madness that is our human reality.
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    Re: Pop Culture Paganism

    Quote Originally Posted by Munin-Hugin View Post
    I feel that creating a new and special snowflake title of "Pop Culture Paganism" is really sort of silly, when you come to think about it.
    The whole "Pop Culture" descriptor happened well after the practice of incorporating fictional contemporary cultural figures into personal pantheons, and it was meant to be an insult by the people doing the criticizing, not a self-adopted moniker by the people actually practicing this way.

    Before that, it was just called Paganism.
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    Re: Pop Culture Paganism

    Should add that alcohol was used in many rites and ceremonies in many belief systems..
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    Re: Pop Culture Paganism

    I don't incorporate pop culture stuff into my religion but I love pop culture elements in spell work. I have four rock bands I use lyrics from in spell work or listen to them to get a mood or energy going. I have blasted Led Zeppelin to clean a spaces in my home. But spell work is kind of different than offering and worship.

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    Re: Pop Culture Paganism

    Quote Originally Posted by anunitu View Post
    The pop culture term is most likely not a real good term to use. That term tends to trivialize because it tends to bring up the idea of short term fads. I am not sure what term would be better suited in this discussion. Perhaps the term"Modern myths and beliefs" would better form more of a solid reason for how people interact in this way.
    I agree. The problem is the term per se, not the beliefs. I disagree on a basic level with a few of the philosophical points, but I do not ridicule them. "Pop Culture" however equates those beliefs with fashion.

    That aside, I can absolutely see how a person can look at some modern work of art and feel attracted to it. Say, a follower of Zeus looks at a painting from an artist and thinks "This - this is how I imagine Zeus to be". But it does not have to be Zeus; it could be any deity. It could be a minor deity that seems to be calling only to them. It could also be that the work of art has inspired them to such great height as to attribute divinity to it.

    Furthermore deities often take many shapes. Is it possible that a few have adapted themselves to the modern period by portraying themselves in current forms of media? Perhaps. Interestingly, some works of fiction deal with this same subject.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ula View Post
    I don't incorporate pop culture stuff into my religion but I love pop culture elements in spell work. I have four rock bands I use lyrics from in spell work or listen to them to get a mood or energy going. I have blasted Led Zeppelin to clean a spaces in my home. But spell work is kind of different than offering and worship.
    I do a similar work with music, even if I do not perform spells. I can take an instrumental piece and make up lyrics for it, and sometimes these are directed as a prayer or praise to my god. I find both the experience more enjoyable and easier to sing a prayer/praise that way.

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    Re: Pop Culture Paganism

    Quote Originally Posted by Ula View Post
    I don't incorporate pop culture stuff into my religion but I love pop culture elements in spell work. I have four rock bands I use lyrics from in spell work or listen to them to get a mood or energy going. I have blasted Led Zeppelin to clean a spaces in my home. But spell work is kind of different than offering and worship.
    I had never actually thought of this as pop culture - esque. I use some modern music at times for meditative or other purposes and never really thought twice about it. Whatever works, eh?

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    Re: Pop Culture Paganism

    It seemed a bit silly when I first started reading about the whole thing, but as I read more through it, and as I looked at other posts here in this thread, I got to thinking about how it really isn't overly silly at all.

    I look at it this way: if you spot the divine in the forest, perhaps in a bubbling brook, or in the light filtering through the trees... or perhaps in the playing of the birds above in the branches... some people call that divinity. Some say it is a symbolic representation of deity, it gives them faith, it makes them stronger in their beliefs and empowers them and gives them strength. In the same way, some might look to modern culture (as in the past) and find the same sort of beauty and inspiration there.

    I thought about what draws me to my own gods, their own traits, symbolism, power... and I thought how many of those things I also find out and about in nature and in the media. I'll admit, I am a die-hard Adventure Time fan, and after thinking about all of this, I realized that, although I don't worship the show or characters in any way, I really look to some of the characters as symbols of certain traits and archetypes that I aspire to in some manner. I could see how this could be taken farther and fleshed out into a worship of the character as a symbol of the divine just as some worship the beauty of nature as the divine.

    Its just a matter of perspective, and sometimes when you don't agree with something, you merely need to turn your perspective upside down to see it...

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