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    True or false?

    OK wise ones! Chew on this...

    Statement A: This statement is false.

    Is statement A true or false?
    Every moment of a life is a horrible tragedy, a slapstick comedy, dark nihilism, golden illumination, or nothing at all; depending on how we write the story we tell ourselves.


    #2
    Re: True or false?

    I say it's a paradox.
    "Fair means that everybody gets what they need. And the only way to get that is to make it happen yourself."



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      #3
      Re: True or false?

      Originally posted by Gleb View Post
      I say it's a paradox.

      LOL - it is, but that's a non-answer.

      To assign a special name to something does not explain it. It avoids explanation.
      Every moment of a life is a horrible tragedy, a slapstick comedy, dark nihilism, golden illumination, or nothing at all; depending on how we write the story we tell ourselves.

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        #4
        Re: True or false?

        If I say it's true - the plot of the sentence will prove me wrong. If I say it's false, it will be true. So I stick with my original answer.
        "Fair means that everybody gets what they need. And the only way to get that is to make it happen yourself."



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          #5
          Re: True or false?

          Originally posted by Gleb View Post
          If I say it's true - the plot of the sentence will prove me wrong. If I say it's false, it will be true. So I stick with my original answer.
          You went two thirds of the way, then stopped. Keep going - the answer is within your grasp!
          Every moment of a life is a horrible tragedy, a slapstick comedy, dark nihilism, golden illumination, or nothing at all; depending on how we write the story we tell ourselves.

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            #6
            Re: True or false?

            Though not my answer,it is in fact an explanation of the nature of the statement.
            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Card_paradox

            This does not make me a wise person,just a person that understands sometimes history and Google are your friends.

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            MAGIC is MAGIC,black OR white or even blood RED

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              #7
              Re: True or false?

              I think I agree with Gleb about it being a paradox. It's hard to call it true when the statement says it's false.
              Anubisa

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                #8
                Re: True or false?

                Originally posted by anunitu View Post
                Though not my answer,it is in fact an explanation of the nature of the statement.
                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Card_paradox

                This does not make me a wise person,just a person that understands sometimes history and Google are your friends.

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                That and I might cheat at times..
                You need to learn to cheat better. You've found an explanation of the dilemma, but still haven't answered the question...

                ... which is odd. The answer is so very, very simple, and right under yer nose (said Corbin, trying to be as annoying as possible without being rude).

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                Originally posted by anubisa View Post
                I think I agree with Gleb about it being a paradox. It's hard to call it true when the statement says it's false.
                Sidestepping again! Come on! Youse guys are soooo much smarter!
                Every moment of a life is a horrible tragedy, a slapstick comedy, dark nihilism, golden illumination, or nothing at all; depending on how we write the story we tell ourselves.

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                  #9
                  Re: True or false?

                  The answer is there is no answer,it is a circular statement.
                  MAGIC is MAGIC,black OR white or even blood RED

                  all i ever wanted was a normal life and love.
                  NO TERF EVER WE belong Too.
                  don't stop the tears.let them flood your soul.




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                    #10
                    Re: True or false?

                    Originally posted by Gleb View Post
                    If I say it's true - the plot of the sentence will prove me wrong. If I say it's false, it will be true. So I stick with my original answer.
                    But keep in mind, that if you say it is true, you are saying that it is TRUE that the statement is FALSE. It's like that exchange in the movie Clue:

                    Col. Mustard: Wadsworth, am I right in thinking that there is nobody else in this house?
                    Wadsworth: No.
                    Col. Mustard: So there is someone else in the house?
                    Wadsworth: No, sorry. I said 'no' meaning 'yes'.
                    Col. Mustard: No meaning yes? Look, I want a straight answer: is there someone else or isn't there, yes or no?
                    Wadsworth: Um...no.
                    Col. Mustard: "No" there is? Or "no" there isn't?
                    Wadsworth: Yes.
                    Col. Mustard: Well there is still some confusion as to whether or not there is anybody else in the house.
                    Wadsworth: I told you there isn't.
                    Col. Mustard: There isn't any confusion, or there isn't anyone else?
                    Wadsworth: Either! Or, both.
                    Col. Mustard: Look, would you just give me a clear answer?
                    Wadsworth: Certainly! What was the question?
                    Col. Mustard: Is there anybody else in the house?!
                    All: NO!!!

                    So the answer is actually TRUE. Because if the statement is true, then it is true that the statement is false. And if it is, in fact, a false statement, that means that it is false that it is false and therefore that makes it TRUE.

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                      #11
                      Re: True or false?

                      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circular_reference
                      MAGIC is MAGIC,black OR white or even blood RED

                      all i ever wanted was a normal life and love.
                      NO TERF EVER WE belong Too.
                      don't stop the tears.let them flood your soul.




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                        #12
                        Re: True or false?

                        Originally posted by Munin-Hugin View Post
                        So the answer is actually TRUE. Because if the statement is true, then it is true that the statement is false. And if it is, in fact, a false statement, that means that it is false that it is false and therefore that makes it TRUE.
                        But this doesn't work... If you conclude that the statement is true, it is a direct contradiction of the explicit meaning of the statement, which would force you to conclude that it is false...
                        Every moment of a life is a horrible tragedy, a slapstick comedy, dark nihilism, golden illumination, or nothing at all; depending on how we write the story we tell ourselves.

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                          #13
                          Re: True or false?

                          I go with false. Minus by minus is a plus.
                          "Fair means that everybody gets what they need. And the only way to get that is to make it happen yourself."



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                            #14
                            Re: True or false?

                            Yup. The problem here is a circular, or self referential statement... But you haven't answered the question.

                            Keep cheating...

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                            LOL... I'll just come back later and look. There must be somebody who can jump out of the box...
                            Every moment of a life is a horrible tragedy, a slapstick comedy, dark nihilism, golden illumination, or nothing at all; depending on how we write the story we tell ourselves.

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                              #15
                              Re: True or false?

                              Did you Corbin want me to say you have inserted a paradox in order to make us all happy(From a song I can not remember) or perhaps it is just something of an ice breaker to get people chatting?
                              MAGIC is MAGIC,black OR white or even blood RED

                              all i ever wanted was a normal life and love.
                              NO TERF EVER WE belong Too.
                              don't stop the tears.let them flood your soul.




                              sigpic

                              my new page here,let me know what you think.


                              nothing but the shadow of what was

                              witchvox
                              http://www.witchvox.com/vu/vxposts.html

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