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    Question Runes, a question

    I have been looking into creating my own set of runes for a while now. I have the tools I need and the rounds to carve the runes into. My question is regarding the painting/staining of the runes. I have read some that say to use a red dye such as red ochre to do this. Others have suggested that in addition to the dye we should use some of our own blood, to "bind" them to us.

    Does anyone have any input of this? What are the ramifications of using my blood in the creation process? What other techniques do you know of?

    Thanks for the input,
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    This is common misunderstanding that comes with new age stuff. My apologies if I come out a bit blunt. You don't have to stain it or blood it whatsoever. People back in the Viking age scratch their rune on a piece of wood or bone and they work just fine. I'm not saying that the new age stuff is wrong, it's just unnecessary.
    My first rune set were made of cutout cardboards and they tell things with incredible accuracy, as well as point me (and few other people too) to the correct direction when it comes to searching for advice.
    What's important is your will and intention when casting the rune. Consecrate the set after its creation if you wish, I find it gave a good vibe to the rune. But personally, that's about as far as I go with the set.
    That said, you can still make it as simple or as fancy as you are able to.

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    I make mine out of Sculpey in the colours that I like, and then I stamp the symbols with a screwdriver. They work well enough for me :-)
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    Re: Runes, a question

    Thanks for the response. That is where much of my confusion comes from. There is tons of info out there and much of it is contradictory. In some ways it makes sense to use blood in that you are giving of yourself. Anyway thanks for the input.

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    No probs dude. I can understand why the "blooding" somewhat makes sense. Do it by all means if you BELIEVE that it will empower your runes.

    From my experience and that of others, the more you use your runes for divination, the more "aligned/smarter" they become. Do it often enough with the right intention, it will come to a point where just about anyone is able to cast the runes with reliable results.

    PS. Familiarizing oneself with the runes will be handy. Runes are much more than divination tools.

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    Re: Runes, a question

    Quote Originally Posted by Niall_Leppu View Post
    This is common misunderstanding that comes with new age stuff. My apologies if I come out a bit blunt. You don't have to stain it or blood it whatsoever. People back in the Viking age scratch their rune on a piece of wood or bone and they work just fine. I'm not saying that the new age stuff is wrong, it's just unnecessary.
    My first rune set were made of cutout cardboards and they tell things with incredible accuracy, as well as point me (and few other people too) to the correct direction when it comes to searching for advice.
    What's important is your will and intention when casting the rune. Consecrate the set after its creation if you wish, I find it gave a good vibe to the rune. But personally, that's about as far as I go with the set.
    That said, you can still make it as simple or as fancy as you are able to.
    I make no apologies for being blunt, but your entire statement is new age stuff. First and foremost, there is no historical evidence of runes being used for divination. There's just not. No, Tacitus never uses the word "runes." That doesn't mean that runes don't work just fine for divination, but EVERYTHING regarding the use of runes in divination is modern (that is, new age stuff). Second, the Runatal section of the Havamal sets out specific procedures for carving runes. There are several translations, so it might say "stain," "redden," "color," or something else. I can only recall one translation that specifically says "blood," and it's the most modern (and frankly, the author has an agenda).

    All that said, it is traditional to blood runes. That, however, doesn't make it a requirement. Blooding the runes is intended to be an act of sacrifice on the part of the user; the runes were, after all, handed down by Odin, and he's all about sacrifice.
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    Data collected. Information upgraded. Understanding Corrected.

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    Re: Runes, a question

    I recently made and red my own runes. I used red ochre, nine drops of my blood (one for each of the nine worlds) and red wine. My impression has been the blood ties the runes to you and is also a bit of an offering. I have put drops of blood in vodka for the runes as offerings. I view them as spirits represented by the symbols.

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    Re: Runes, a question

    Quote Originally Posted by Rick View Post
    I make no apologies for being blunt, but your entire statement is new age stuff. First and foremost, there is no historical evidence of runes being used for divination. There's just not. No, Tacitus never uses the word "runes." That doesn't mean that runes don't work just fine for divination, but EVERYTHING regarding the use of runes in divination is modern (that is, new age stuff). Second, the Runatal section of the Havamal sets out specific procedures for carving runes. There are several translations, so it might say "stain," "redden," "color," or something else. I can only recall one translation that specifically says "blood," and it's the most modern (and frankly, the author has an agenda).

    All that said, it is traditional to blood runes. That, however, doesn't make it a requirement. Blooding the runes is intended to be an act of sacrifice on the part of the user; the runes were, after all, handed down by Odin, and he's all about sacrifice.
    Quite right about Tacitus. He didn't say runes. And no, there isn't any evidence of them being used for divination... except a set of astragali (sheep's ankle bones) found in Norfolk - one of them is from a roe deer and is marked with runes (there is a certain amount of uncertainly exactly what the runes mean, it must be said.) Well, these might have had a divinatory purpose, it's true, and they might also have been used for gambling (which, like divination, has certain belief in the power of fate, luck, etc.)

    My own feeling is that the main purpose of the Anglo-Saxon runes was as a spiritual guide, and this is actually borne out quite well in the Anglo-Saxon rune poem.

    As for the blood... personally I never found it necessary. Could use ear wax maybe
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    There's something that I always keep in mind when I'm making a new set of runes. To learn of them, Odin hung himself, stabbed himself, and starved himself so that he could gain that knowledge. I've found that if he is willing to go through such a sacrifice in that pursuit, it is no big thing for me to cut my hand so that I may add my own blood to my runes.

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