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    Re: Does science reduce appreciation of beauty?

    If you allow science to steal your appreciation of beauty then you probably didn't have much of an appreciation in the first place.

    Science is like falling in love. You find someone amazing and you want to know ALL about them. You want to know more BECAUSE you love it, not in spite of it.

    That's like saying "does knowing that music uses a lot of complex math make you appreciate it any less or start to view it like homework?"

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    Re: Does science reduce appreciation of beauty?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bjorn View Post
    That's like saying "does knowing that music uses a lot of complex math make you appreciate it any less or start to view it like homework?"
    Absolutely. Understanding how things work is very inspiring.
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    Re: Does science reduce appreciation of beauty?

    It is a common religious attack that atheists fail to see beauty in the world. I would argue that understanding how nature works enhances the beauty of the Universe.

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    Re: Does science reduce appreciation of beauty?

    Here's another perspective that might bear on the topic:




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    Re: Does science reduce appreciation of beauty?

    Depends on the "beauty" in question and the person viewing. There are things that I wouldn't appreciate at all without understanding them, things where I find understanding to be irrelevant to appreciation and things/people where the phrase, "familiarity breeds contempt" applies many times over.
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    Re: Does science reduce appreciation of beauty?

    It doesn't reduce appreciation for beauty at all. If anything it enhances it!

    Have you ever seen the smallest particles or materials under a microscope? It's like its own art. Its stunning, even a strand of DNA can be beautiful. Gases in space from Hubble looking at a nebula... thats science and its simply amazingly gorgeous. Watching particles collide into its smaller parts... again beautiful. All these things are what make everything beautiful on a microscopic and quantum level, without science you would never see their beauty at all.

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    Re: Does science reduce appreciation of beauty?

    Not at all. Like others have mentioned, science has allowed us to see things that we couldn't with just our own eyes. Galaxies, planets, snowflake formations, and how beautiful things are on a microscopic level.
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    Re: Does science reduce appreciation of beauty?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kiesha'ra View Post
    Have you ever seen the smallest particles or materials under a microscope? It's like its own art. Its stunning, even a strand of DNA can be beautiful. Gases in space from Hubble looking at a nebula...
    The Hubble stuff is fantastic, I have several prints on my wall, better than art. http://hubblesite.org/gallery/wallpaper/

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    The live feed from the International Space Station is cool ( you might need to wait till it's back in daylight though, you can check it's location further down the page ).
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    Re: Does science reduce appreciation of beauty?

    Everybody like to believe his/her self is special. If one is science blind, one gots to find a way to make that special, too...

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    Quote Originally Posted by R. Eugene Laughlin View Post
    Here's another perspective that might bear on the topic:



    LOL - I saw that once when I was a kidling, and still remember it... A distorted view of reality is far more appealing than is a clear view...
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    Re: Does science reduce appreciation of beauty?

    Quote Originally Posted by B. de Corbin View Post
    Everybody like to believe his/her self is special. If one is science blind, one gots to find a way to make that special, too...

    LOL - I saw that once when I was a kidling, and still remember it... A distorted view of reality is far more appealing than is a clear view...
    I tend to focus on two themes:

    The little mole was able to see a whole new world of wonder with the new technology (i.e. a clear view of a butterfly, the detail of the flowers, etc.), but at the cost of seeing his fairy palace for the pile of junk that it really was. Seeing truth can have a cost, and science can have that kind of impact.

    For a germane example, people who practice magick can develop an inflated sense of their effectiveness as a result of a handful of well-studied cognitive biases. Knowing the research around such biases and acting on the knowledge gained from them can improve that self-assessment, but a more accurate record of ones hits and misses may feel less satisfying to some. I think that tends to be a temporary effect though.

    I've had a lot of conversations with people who claim to cause some pretty remarkable effects with a high degree of efficiency. When asked, if you're mistaken about your effectiveness, would you want to know? Pretty much everyone says yes, and means it.

    And then, a darker theme, less directly relevant to this thread, is that having the new technology exposed the little mole to a host of unexpected dangers, because he was naive and unprepared. Nuclear fission comes to mind.

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