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    Re: Dream Spell

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    You know I'm all about practical stuff.

    Spicy foods before bed. You will be dreaming of two headed monsters and flying on cabbage leaves in no time (an actual dream of mine)
    Sadly, spicy food makes me sick. I won't sleep, but will be shooting fire out of either end.

    Quote Originally Posted by Porpoise View Post
    The state between waking and sleep can be interesting to work with, though it requires some practice to stay "in the zone".
    Half-awake dreams are interesting. I usually have really bizarre and violent ones in that state.
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    Re: Dream Spell

    Quote Originally Posted by habbalah View Post
    I tried the recording my dreams thing, but I kind of fell out of doing it unless they were particularly interesting. I should try that again. I don't know if I have moonstone--I'll need to look.
    If writing them down is hard to stick to, maybe try what I do... I grab my phone and in my sleepy state, record myself reciting as much as I can of the dream. My intention is always to play them all back and record them neatly in my notebook, but I can count on one hand the times this actually happens. Still, it's much easier to just talk while still snug in your bed, than it is to motivate yourself to get up and find a pen!

    Last week I had a nightmare and managed to wake myself up! It's not the first time. I actually first learnt lucid dreaming because of a nightmare, but I haven't had to do in a while. Usually once I realise I'm dreaming, the nightmare ends and the dream changes, but last time it continued. At first I was all 'I'll just roll with it, it can't harm me after all' but then my nerves got the better of me and I decided I had to wake up. It was the weirdest sensation too.

    Bit off-topic, but I've been dying to tell someone about it.
    夕方に急なにわか雨は「夕立」と呼ばれるなら、なぜ朝ににわか雨は「朝立ち」と呼ばれないの? ^^If a sudden rain shower in the evening is referred to as an 'evening stand', then why isn't a shower in the morning called 'morning stand'?

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    Re: Dream Spell

    Quote Originally Posted by Jembru View Post
    If writing them down is hard to stick to, maybe try what I do... I grab my phone and in my sleepy state, record myself reciting as much as I can of the dream. My intention is always to play them all back and record them neatly in my notebook, but I can count on one hand the times this actually happens. Still, it's much easier to just talk while still snug in your bed, than it is to motivate yourself to get up and find a pen!

    Last week I had a nightmare and managed to wake myself up! It's not the first time. I actually first learnt lucid dreaming because of a nightmare, but I haven't had to do in a while. Usually once I realise I'm dreaming, the nightmare ends and the dream changes, but last time it continued. At first I was all 'I'll just roll with it, it can't harm me after all' but then my nerves got the better of me and I decided I had to wake up. It was the weirdest sensation too.

    Bit off-topic, but I've been dying to tell someone about it.
    That's okay! I lucid dream on very rare occasion. I like seeing where my brain will take the story, but sometimes, I find myself thinking "no, I don't like this" and changing things.

    I don't know if I have night terrors, but I have, on rare occasions, woken myself up by screaming because of a nightmare.
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    Re: Dream Spell

    So what are dreams really? The unconscious mind churning stuff over or something?
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    Re: Dream Spell

    Quote Originally Posted by Porpoise View Post
    So what are dreams really? The unconscious mind churning stuff over or something?
    This is a bit off-topic, but psychology seems to more or less agree that it's your brain kind of "dumping" thoughts that it doesn't need to file. I use to be able to choose what I dreamed about what I wanted to by thinking really intensely about something, then shoving it to the back of my mind before I fell asleep, but I haven't been able to do it in a long time.
    “You must be shapeless, formless, like water. When you pour water in a cup, it becomes the cup. When you pour water in a bottle, it becomes the bottle. When you pour water in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Water can drip and it can crash. Become like water my friend.” -- Bruce Lee

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    Re: Dream Spell

    Quote Originally Posted by habbalah View Post
    This is a bit off-topic, but psychology seems to more or less agree that it's your brain kind of "dumping" thoughts that it doesn't need to file. I use to be able to choose what I dreamed about what I wanted to by thinking really intensely about something, then shoving it to the back of my mind before I fell asleep, but I haven't been able to do it in a long time.
    I have an idea that dreaming is something to do with processing unconscious or unresolved stuff. I think the theme or feelings of dreams can be useful to note, but the detail is probably not that relevant.

    Personally I find waking meditation more productive.
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    Re: Dream Spell

    It isn't clear yet what purpose or purposes dreams serve. My bet? More than one reason for them.

    I read an article that said people who smoke a lot of dope then quit get flooded with dreams, so try smoking a lot of dope for a few years, then stop...



    Yup - here it is:

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    Re: Dream Spell

    I've found that I have more vivid and long-lasting dreams, and that I can remember them, when I'm less stressed out in my day-to-day life.

    That is, if I'm dealing with no end of stressors every day that by the time I get to bed I simply pass out and wake up 5 hours later having to go back to deal with those stressors, that I simply don't dream. But if I'm able to actually stay calm throughout the day, feel like I have some semblance of control over what's going on, have the time to enjoy the simple things a little bit, go to bed on my own terms and get enough sleep, I will almost always have those vivid dreams and remember them.


    Maybe, if your life is stressful, it may help to try and find ways to alleviate some of those stressors. It ties into what Rae'ya said earlier about dream cycles, and if you're overtired you probably aren't getting enough time in the right sleep-states.

    It's not a spell-solution, but it may help.

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    Re: Dream Spell

    Quote Originally Posted by Willow View Post
    It ties into what Rae'ya said earlier about dream cycles, and if you're overtired you probably aren't getting enough time in the right sleep-states.
    I think dreams mostly occur during REM ( Rapid Eye Movement ) sleep, which is shallow rather than deep sleep.
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    Re: Dream Spell

    They do.

    img_main_SleepStages_01_US.jpg


    If you look at the image, the longer you sleep the more time you spend in the REM cycle because sleep is cyclical. If you can't relax and if you don't get enough sleep, you cut those cycles short and are brought out of the deeper stages too early to ever enter those longer REM cycles.

    More relaxing. More sleep. Fewer stressors.

    One more tidbit on the dream-journal thing. I did do this for awhile, and I found that I didn't need to record every night's sleep in it, just the dreams that really stuck in my mind. Keeping the more memorable ones written down, and looking back over them to try and think on them more from time to time, helped with improving the frequency of more vivid dreams. Or at least remembering them after waking up.

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