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    Maternity Leave

    I know I am the only female chef/cook on here, but I think its a great read and is something that happens to women everywhere.

    http://www.eater.com/2016/1/27/10835...aternity-leave
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    Re: Maternity Leave

    Keep up the good fight, seriously. We get a year of paid leave, split between the couple as they see fit (most of that time isn't 100% of your salary, but it's still most of it). As far as I know, that's the norm in most of the developed world.

    Maternity leave doesn't cut it 100%, though. When employers know that women might take time off like that, they sometimes discriminate against them and avoid promoting them or even hiring them in the first place. You not only need maternity leave, but also parental leave where men and women can take time off. The guys don't usually take it, but even when most of them start taking a couple of months, discrimination starts dropping like crazy.

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    Err- Down here in Australia Maternity leave is 18 weeks - and the government is trying to kill that too. As far as I know the US doesn't have a universal entitlement - it's state to state. Someone Correct me if I'm wrong.

    Fully agree with the parental leave concept - In face I think it should be mandate that the male half gets half the length of the female maternity leave entitlement as a minimum. Guys really need to be more involved with their families, would help us produce more balanced kids as far as I'm concerned.

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    Re: Maternity Leave

    My son's mother had only four weeks unpaid maternity leave as a full time employee at a casino in Mississippi. They really need to make a mandate. We barely covered the rent that month. I think the current conservative policy is "the more workers and women struggle the better".

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    Re: Maternity Leave

    Quote Originally Posted by Marradin View Post
    Err- Down here in Australia Maternity leave is 18 weeks - and the government is trying to kill that too.
    18 weeks? Where are you working! Lol
    At the moment I get 14 weeks at full pay or 28 at half. I can then take rec leave at full or half pay til I use it all and I keep accruing rec leave even when on leave. I can take up to a year off and then need to negotiate with my boss a return to work plan, but I can negotiate to work less hours or none until my first child is 5. Then I have to go back full time. This is with a government department (health).

    On top of that, I get 8 weeks leave from the federal government at minimum wage.

    I'm pretty sure that fathers get 2-4 weeks from the federal government which gets paid to their employer, then on to the employee.

    So yea, I feel our private sector could be doing a LOT more for the families. Many of my friends received no mat. Leave at all. They had to use whatever annual leave and sick leave they had. Then when their kid gets sick (which happens ALL the time with any kind of childcare), they have to take leave no pay cause they've used all their leave. Pretty rough. Idk how ppl are expected to keep their houses.

    It's as if our government thinks people can pick and choose where they work so they don't regulate these working conditions unless unions are involved. In reality, unemployment is something like 15% in my town so there ain't a lot of choice!

    Time to rally!! A year off paid would be incredibubble.
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    Re: Maternity Leave

    I took a month because I was completely unpaid, and that was after a c-section. It was the bare minimum
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    Re: Maternity Leave

    When I was in the Navy, I got six weeks and 1 year non-deployable.

    That has now changed
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    July 2, Secretary of the Navy Ray Mabus announced that effective immediately, women who serve in the Navy and Marine Corps will have 18 weeks of maternity leave available to use during the first year of her child's life.

    "In the Navy and the Marine Corps, we are continually looking for ways to recruit and retain the best people," Mabus said. "We have incredibly talented women who want to serve, and they also want to be mothers and have the time to fulfill that important role the right way. We can do that for them. Meaningful maternity leave when it matters most is one of the best ways that we can support the women who serve our county. This flexibility is an investment in our people and our Services, and a safeguard against losing skilled service members."

    Department of Defense Instruction 1327.06, Leave and Liberty Procedures for the Department, charges Secretaries of the Military Departments with publishing departmental guidance in accordance with the DoD instruction. Under the section that delegates to the Secretary the ability to designate the level of control for convalescent leave that exceeds 30 days, Secretary Mabus has directed that commanding officers grant additional convalescent leave up to 84 days beyond the currently authorized 42 days of convalescent leave following the birth of a child.

    For families, increased time following the birth of her child has tangible benefits for the physical and psychological health of both mother and child. For the Navy and Marine Corps, there is the likelihood that women will return to and stay in her career, yielding higher readiness and retention for the services.

    "When the women in our Navy and Marine Corps answer the call to serve, they are making the difficult choice to be away from their children - sometimes for prolonged periods of time - so that they can do the demanding jobs that we ask them to do." Mabus said. "With increased maternity leave, we can demonstrate the commitment of the Navy and Marine Corps to the women who are committed to serve."

    The policy, which is effective immediately, will also apply retroactively to any woman who has been authorized convalescent leave following the birth of a child since Jan. 1, 2015. Under the new policy, commanding officers are required to grant to a woman up to a total of 18 weeks, using a combination of maternity leave and convalescent leave beyond 30 days. A mother does not need to take all of her leave at once; however, she is only entitled to the use of this type of leave within one year of her child's birth.

    The Army and AF still do the 6 weeks and, I believe the AF has increased their non-deployable status for 1 year.

    Making the US Navy the most progressive place in America where the government guarantees you a reasonable materinity leave. We also plan for climate change. ....a bit sad, yeah?
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    Re: Maternity Leave

    When my daughters were born, I had to take whatever unpaid time off I could scrounge to be home with K'Roe and the new life. Since we were way, way, way poor and getting by mostly through the 20+ overtime hours I was working each week, we took a huge hit.

    The question of "maternity leave" would, in a well constituted society, also apply to fathers. They have a roll to play in the family, and they need to play it.

    If people are interested in promoting the well being of families, putting mothers, fathers, and babies together at that time should be ground zero for the approach, rather than the polipop topic of "what defines a family."
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    Re: Maternity Leave

    Quote Originally Posted by B. de Corbin View Post

    The question of "maternity leave" would, in a well constituted society, also apply to fathers. They have a roll to play in the family, and they need to play it.
    It does, in many progressive countries. Here, the year we get is parental leave, and a couple can divide that time however they see fit. Single parents get 14 months to cope with the extra burden of going it alone. There is also a 14-week maternity leave that only women can take (they have to start a few weeks before the birth and it goes in after that) to deal with being heavily pregnant and recovering from the birth, but the 52 weeks of parental leave is not part of that. Sweden gives an extra two months to fathers, and it's "use it or lose it" (most choose to use it). All really common in Northern and Western Europe. Some countries still suck though (Belgium, for example). A lot of other countries also only offer unpaid leave, which isn't really helpful. I'm glad I live here. The family policy of this country is one of the reasons I want to stay here to have and raise kids. I guess the incredibly low birth rate gave them incentive, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by B. de Corbin View Post
    If people are interested in promoting the well being of families, putting mothers, fathers, and babies together at that time should be ground zero for the approach, rather than the polipop topic of "what defines a family."
    I agree with this wholeheartedly. It's so important to have time to bond as a family.

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    Re: Maternity Leave

    Quote Originally Posted by B. de Corbin View Post
    When my daughters were born, I had to take whatever unpaid time off I could scrounge to be home with K'Roe and the new life. Since we were way, way, way poor and getting by mostly through the 20+ overtime hours I was working each week, we took a huge hit.

    The question of "maternity leave" would, in a well constituted society, also apply to fathers. They have a roll to play in the family, and they need to play it.

    If people are interested in promoting the well being of families, putting mothers, fathers, and babies together at that time should be ground zero for the approach, rather than the polipop topic of "what defines a family."
    I don't disagree with this at all.

    I do think that there are logistical and medical reasons why women should absolutely be paid *at an absolute minimum* for 6-8 weeks, when it comes to downstairs recovery and nursing "schedules", but the presence of a father in bonding with baby and support to give mom some sanity time is crucial.
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