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    Fear of a vengeful God may explain humanity’s global expansion

    This is an interesting idea,though it most likely will not be everyones cup of tea.
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    The fear that a punitive God is watching may have helped drive humanity’s global expansion, a team of international researchers argues in a new paper.

    Their research, conducted in communities around the world and summarized in a peer-reviewed paper published this week by the journal Nature, finds that people who hold such beliefs about God tend to act less selfishly.

    So,how do you feel about this conclusion.

    I myself "Might" believe this may be partly true in the long term.
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    Re: Fear of a vengeful God may explain humanity’s global expansion

    It's true. God is watching you. So obey him.

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    Re: Fear of a vengeful God may explain humanity’s global expansion

    Quote Originally Posted by Bartmanhomer View Post
    It's true. God is watching you. So obey him.
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    Re: Fear of a vengeful God may explain humanity’s global expansion

    Quote Originally Posted by Bartmanhomer View Post
    It's true. God is watching you. So obey him.
    I didn't consent to God watching me. What a perv.
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    Re: Fear of a vengeful God may explain humanity’s global expansion

    This is my opinion, but I don't think we should fear God. I believe that we should respect the deities, but I don't think they would want us to fear them. Also, I think they do watch us, but to some extent. They aren't going to take a magnifying glass and bear down on us wondering what we are going to do wrong. That's my belief. I know, personally, that Lord Anubis and Lady Bast come to me when I need them. I know they are there, but they have other things to do. I also don't fear them. I respect them. They are deities and they are powerful. You never want to disrespect such powerful beings, but they don't want you to fear them. Again, that is just my opinion.
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    Re: Fear of a vengeful God may explain humanity’s global expansion

    So do we get to blame god for all those people who died in his name? Or do we cop out and just say yeah, that was us.
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    Re: Fear of a vengeful God may explain humanity’s global expansion

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    So do we get to blame god for all those people who died in his name? Or do we cop out and just say yeah, that was us.
    Can we just blame humanity for being selfish and call it good?
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    Re: Fear of a vengeful God may explain humanity’s global expansion

    Quote Originally Posted by habbalah View Post
    Can we just blame humanity for being selfish and call it good?
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    Re: Fear of a vengeful God may explain humanity’s global expansion

    Quote Originally Posted by anunitu View Post
    , finds that people who hold such beliefs about God tend to act less selfishly WHEN MAKING DECISIONS THAT IMPACT PEOPLE IN THEIR RELIGIOUS IN-GROUP
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    The way that article read, it failed to add one important caveat to their statement.

    Other studies have also shown that this "less selfish" behavior goes away when it is directed towards people that are *not* in that ingroup.


    Religion exists because it is a co-operative extension of kin-selection....basically it expands who you see as your in-group (nationalism and other place-based identites does the same thing, as does sports team allegiance, etc) (and yet another way in which atheism is, indeed, a religion)
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    Re: Fear of a vengeful God may explain humanity’s global expansion

    I don't agree. There was a poll in 2013-2014 that concluded atheist (or non-religious) countries are the happiest countries (such as Norway and Sweden), not to mention many of them are currently on the leading edge of sustainable technology. No god has anything to do with their happiness, but their place in the world as down to Earth human beings who have faith in their families not some mystical being. The most religious countries on the other hand are rife with violence, power corruption and intolerance (Israel, Iraq, America to name a few)

    Scientific progression has more to do with global expansion, especially in the modern age. No God of Fear is forcing these brilliant people into research and discovery. The love of humanity, as far as I can tell, is what drives people towards expansion and cultural unity and growth. Another point: Non-religious friends of mine hardly ever talk down on those of us that hold spiritual or religious beliefs and give time and life towards spiritual progression, they actually think it is good for us (even if it is all in our heads), but friends of different spiritual paths tend to argue over who is right - there seems to be much more egocentric behavior, intolerance, and acts of stupidity (by acts of stupidity I mean people arguing over who is right even though neither of the ones debating have taken the time to actually study or engage in the opposing views practices, thus coming from a place of bias and pure ignorance).

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