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    Make America great - for everybody!

    It's time for the US to look at the rest of the world, and see what really, really makes a country great...

    These Are The Happiest Countries In The World: The U.S. ranked #13. And Bernie Sanders feels great about #1.

    Not just for the fatcats and wannabe elites, but for everybody.

    The answer is not exclusion and economic terrorism as preached by people running for office.

    Other countries have already conducted the experiments, and, in the name of intellectual honesty and realism, we need to look at the results of those experiments and base our policies on those results, rather than on crap theory that doesn't actually match reality.

    Why do people insist on stupidity when another option - learning - is available?
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    Re: Make America great - for everybody!

    I can't agree more, and I'd say the same goes for other countries as well. Sometimes we spend so much time delving into the politics of fear that we forget what we do well, and we forget that certain countries do other things well. Here in Germany, I feel like we spend so much time looking at what other EU countries do wrong that we forget to look at what other EU countries do right (and the ones that do a lot of things right are so much more similar to us in terms of culture).

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    Would you look at that? I thought we had travelled down that list, people are always complaining about everyone else doing better than us... according to the danish media, Denmark is one of the most hated countries at the moment.

    and why people insist on stupidity? Learning takes effort, and a will to learn. 'Ignorance is bliss', who would want to leave their blissful ignorance... maybe.
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    Re: Make America great - for everybody!

    Quote Originally Posted by iris View Post
    Would you look at that? I thought we had travelled down that list, people are always complaining about everyone else doing better than us... according to the danish media, Denmark is one of the most hated countries at the moment.

    and why people insist on stupidity? Learning takes effort, and a will to learn. 'Ignorance is bliss', who would want to leave their blissful ignorance... maybe.
    I can't speak for every country in Europe, but Germans hold Denmark highly. Canada does as well. I think that your current government isn't popular with other Europeans, but your social systems and people are well liked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DanieMarie View Post
    I can't speak for every country in Europe, but Germans hold Denmark highly. Canada does as well. I think that your current government isn't popular with other Europeans, but your social systems and people are well liked.
    They're not popular with danes either, but neither was the last one... it's not the government bit the politicians that are the problem. Too busy screaming 'the others are wrong' to stop and think about... well... anything.
    Yea, our systems are pretty good, compared to some others. I never really understood much of the american system, school and healthcare especially... it's hard to comprehend, having gown up with free healthcare and education.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iris View Post
    I never really understood much of the american system, school and healthcare especially... it's hard to comprehend, having gown up with free healthcare and education.
    If you have money, you are a "true American." If you don't, you are a burden to society, and should just go away or die and get it over with. That's really all you need to know...

    It sucks, but that's how it goes..
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    Re: Make America great - for everybody!

    Quote Originally Posted by B. de Corbin View Post
    Other countries have already conducted the experiments, and, in the name of intellectual honesty and realism, we need to look at the results of those experiments and base our policies on those results, rather than on crap theory that doesn't actually match reality.

    Why do people insist on stupidity when another option - learning - is available?
    Really. I mean look at Denmark. They are focused on migrant integration, notably insuring that they have a working knowledge of the Danish language and culture. There is also a concerted effort to combat ghettos and ghettoization and to encourage labor market participation. Actions which are/would be seen as racist and horrible if and when we do them.
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    Here is a place that actual reality should beat out idiot theory:

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    Re: Make America great - for everybody!

    Lets look at Denmark... The tax to GDP ratio is 48.9%. They have the highest tax rate in the world. Free speech and press exists only as long as the courts agree. Religious freedom is only protected for Islam according to 266b of the criminal code and a judgment made by a district court in 2013 it was acceptable for a local Imam to berate Jews and the Jewish religion but speaking about the "ideology" of Islam (not the religion) was worthy of a conviction and fine. There are few cars in Denmark but more bicycles than people. Well, with nearly 50% of your money going to taxes and having to import most food products there are very few people who can afford a car.

    So the people of Denmark are happy. I think that is wonderful, if it is true. I will take free over happy every time.

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    Re: Make America great - for everybody!

    Quote Originally Posted by iris View Post
    They're not popular with danes either, but neither was the last one... it's not the government bit the politicians that are the problem. Too busy screaming 'the others are wrong' to stop and think about... well... anything.
    That reminds me of British politics for the last 30 years lol
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