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    Re: Addiction

    Quote Originally Posted by Bartmanhomer View Post
    Habballah, I'm sorry that addiction has cause you so many issue but like I said addiction is a tricky subject.
    I want evidence of your claim that an addiction can be positive besides personal anecdotes. Please provide some.
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    Re: Addiction

    Full disclosure - I haven't read the rest of this thread, because it's three pages long and I don't have time right now.

    But the OP is definitely alarming. I suspect most of the other posts (or all of them) take issue with it as well, but I want to say my piece. There is a HUGE difference between a passion and an addiction. Collecting Pokemon cards, shopping for deals, gaming, etc are hobbies for a lot of people, and they're hobbies that a lot of people are passionate about. Likewise, some people are very enthusiastic about wine, whiskey, gourmet food, and that sort of thing. That's all fine and good, and people can even let those things cross over into a lifestyle without entering addiction territory (for example, I know a few sommeliers and wine dealers who basically live and breathe wine without being alcoholics). An addiction, however, is a different beast. When you have an addiction, you don't consume something; it consumes you. You are not in control, and it starts affecting the rest of your life. Your desire for finding deals while shopping puts you into debt, your alcohol consumption makes you sick, your food consumption makes your weight spiral out of control, your gaming addiction alienates your friends and family, etc. Those aren't fun and enjoyable consequences.

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    Re: Addiction

    Quote Originally Posted by DanieMarie View Post
    Full disclosure - I haven't read the rest of this thread, because it's three pages long and I don't have time right now.

    But the OP is definitely alarming. I suspect most of the other posts (or all of them) take issue with it as well, but I want to say my piece. There is a HUGE difference between a passion and an addiction. Collecting Pokemon cards, shopping for deals, gaming, etc are hobbies for a lot of people, and they're hobbies that a lot of people are passionate about. Likewise, some people are very enthusiastic about wine, whiskey, gourmet food, and that sort of thing. That's all fine and good, and people can even let those things cross over into a lifestyle without entering addiction territory (for example, I know a few sommeliers and wine dealers who basically live and breathe wine without being alcoholics). An addiction, however, is a different beast. When you have an addiction, you don't consume something; it consumes you. You are not in control, and it starts affecting the rest of your life. Your desire for finding deals while shopping puts you into debt, your alcohol consumption makes you sick, your food consumption makes your weight spiral out of control, your gaming addiction alienates your friends and family, etc. Those aren't fun and enjoyable consequences.
    Passion. That's the word I've been going for all the time but couldn't pull out of my brain.
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    Re: Addiction

    I think BMH is using the wrong word - he is using "addiction," when he means "the occasional use of."

    Addiction is something else completely.
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    Re: Addiction

    Because everything the Internet says is totally sound...

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    Re: Addiction

    Just gonna put this here because it touches on some very valid points about the term 'positive addiction'
    https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog...ive-addictions
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    Re: Addiction

    I had a "passion" for booze,BUT I ended up on the floor a lot because I was so passionate
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    Re: Addiction

    That's my proof of positive addiction.

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    Re: Addiction

    Does spending the night in Jail seem positive?
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