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    Death Penalty: Support It Or Against It

    I support the death penalty because criminals deserve the ultimate punishment for their serious crimes. I believe that the death penalty should be legal in all fifty states in the US. What's your opinion on the death penalty?

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    Re: Death Penalty: Support It Or Against It

    I know it's not something people usually have a neutral stance on, but that's where I've found myself in the past. I've only very recently started finding myself slightly opposing it, but I'm still a long way off from deciding one way or the other. So I'm eager to see where this thread goes!

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    I'm sure some people have had the death penalty when falsely accused. The death penalty is too easy, anyway. If they did something they should suffer the time for it.
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    Re: Death Penalty: Support It Or Against It

    Here is my problem with the death penalty and why I feel it is indefensible. And my objection has nothing to do with the killing of people who have done horrible things. I have a hard time sympathizing. However, it would seem to me that the death penalty would only be fair, and not morally wrong, in a perfect justice system. But, we have a far from a perfect justice system.

    1 in 25 Death Row prisoners are innocent according to studies: http://www.newsweek.com/one-25-execu...-claims-248889

    The Death Penalty, like the Drug War, and our entire Justice System itself disproportionately affects minorities: https://www.aclu.org/race-and-death-penalty

    The taxpayer cost of the Death Penalty is incredible, costing far, far more than life imprisonment: http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/costs-death-penalty

    The death penalty is not an actual deterrent to crime: http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/stud...tive-deterrent

    Just given the fact that you know innocent people will die, I wonder how can anyone morally justify the death penalty in our current system. The death penalty only works in a perfect system, where everyone is guilty and the punishment is provided fairly. That is not the case and never will be. It is indefensible and it boggles my mind, that given the numbers, people defend and advocate it's use.

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    Re: Death Penalty: Support It Or Against It

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePaganMafia View Post
    1 in 25 Death Row prisoners are innocent according to studies: http://www.newsweek.com/one-25-execu...-claims-248889
    This tends to be my largest issue with it. There are any number of people on the planet that I won't shed a tear over the death (even in some cases, the horrific death) of. Unfortunately for my vengeful streak, our system demonstrably gets it wrong from time to time and its really difficult to make amends with the innocent who has just been executed.
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    I'm for it. Especially for things like perpetual right/left blinker. Popping gum loudly. And walking too slow in front of me.
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    Re: Death Penalty: Support It Or Against It

    Against. We don't have it in either of my countries and haven't for a long time. I'm against reinstating it.

    The murder rate isn't higher in places that don't have it, so it can't be a great deterrent. As ThePaganMafia mentioned, the justice system is far from perfect, so innocent people end up on death row. And even if it were perfect, I don't think "eye-for-eye" justice is appropriate in most cases. Barring extreme cases, I don't believe that most people are beyond redemption.

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    Re: Death Penalty: Support It Or Against It

    The points against the death penalty have all already been made.

    My only concern is in those vast minority of cases of sane but entirely malicious individuals who have no regret over what they do, there is no doubt they did it, and they are just a drain on tax payer money whilst being a threat if they don't serve a life imprisonment.

    Prison should be a place where dangerous people are kept until they can be rehabilitated. If they can't be rehabilitated, what's the point of storing them? And if they don't care that they are in prison, then that's not a punishment. Drowning rats can be a fitting response, sometimes.
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    Re: Death Penalty: Support It Or Against It

    Quote Originally Posted by Briton View Post
    The points against the death penalty have all already been made.

    My only concern is in those vast minority of cases of sane but entirely malicious individuals who have no regret over what they do, there is no doubt they did it, and they are just a drain on tax payer money whilst being a threat if they don't serve a life imprisonment.

    Prison should be a place where dangerous people are kept until they can be rehabilitated. If they can't be rehabilitated, what's the point of storing them? And if they don't care that they are in prison, then that's not a punishment. Drowning rats can be a fitting response, sometimes.
    It costs far more to execute than to house for life so it would seem execution is a larger drain on the taxpayer dollar.

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    Re: Death Penalty: Support It Or Against It

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePaganMafia View Post
    It costs far more to execute than to house for life so it would seem execution is a larger drain on the taxpayer dollar.
    Well gang members seem to know how to execute on the cheap. Maybe we should 'rehabilitate them' and give them a job executing death row inmates. I mean it's a win win.
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