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    Re: ADHD: Mental Illness Or Not

    One thing about "mental illnesses" and "mental disorders" is that there is no real agreement on diagnosis. For example, I seem to remember that US psychologists reckon that over 10% of the population have a "personality disorder", compared with a figure of 1% given by UK psychologists. These things can be very subject to cultural bias. I don't know if it still does, but the original Minnesota Multiphasic Personality Inventory counted "trust in God" as evidence of "ego weakness"!

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    Re: ADHD: Mental Illness Or Not

    Quote Originally Posted by habbalah View Post
    I don't see how this is a debate. It's classified in the DSM as a disorder. It's called a disorder in its very name (Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder). So, it's a disorder.

    Also, your assertion that people who have ADHD get "hyper like crazy" is a stereotype, not a consistent. From what I understand, ADD isn't a proper diagnosis anymore: it's all rolled into ADHD, and it's either attention focused or hyperactivity focused. I have the former. I have a lot of trouble concentrating. My thoughts are jumpy. I get agitated if I have to focus on one thing aa time. Alternatively, I get so hyperfocused on things that I don't notice anything else around me. Saying that it has anything to do with increased energy drink consumption is absurd. Just because people are consuming uppers like caffeine, doesn't make them get ADHD any more than consuming alcohol, which is a downer, makes them get clinical depression.
    Some people believe that ADHD it's a neural processing disorder not a mental illness. And it's true people get over-hyperactive went people drink caffeine and over energy drinks.

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    Re: ADHD: Mental Illness Or Not

    Quote Originally Posted by thalassa View Post
    I think you would mean MD...

    Ain't got one, but I sure have a kid with ADHD, a husband with ADHD, a brother with ADHD, and a all-you-can-read access to medical journals (thanks mom for being a pediatric nurse practitioner).







    The DSM-5 lists 3 types of ADHD--inattentive, hyperactive-impulsive, and combined type. Specifically:




    There's also an ICD9 code (314.9) for ADHD-NOS (not otherwise specified)--
    (there's now an ICD10, so I don't know how this may have changed)
    There is also at least one specialist proposes more subtypes than this-- 7 types of ADHD are proposed by the (controversial, and (IMO) rightly criticized) Dr. Daniel Amen...Dr. A claims to be able to diagnose kids (and adults) purely by brain scan---yes, there are brain differences, but not like what he is proposing (its just not that simple), and the brain differences that have been established in rigorous scientific studies don't quite work out the way he claims they do. Also, some of the "7 types" of ADHD (the ones beyond the 3 commonly accepted ones) look an awful lot like ADHD with some of the common comorbid disorders, like ODD/CD, depression, bipolar disorder, anxiety, OCD, learning disabilities, tic disorders, and autism spectrum disorders.
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    Got the double fuzzy and tingles once again....
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    Re: ADHD: Mental Illness Or Not

    And exactly what specific point are we referring to?

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    Re: ADHD: Mental Illness Or Not

    As to mental illness and mental disorder
    This site explains the difference

    In a nut shell:

    Because "disease" specifies that the pathological condition be of a body part, people were less likely to use the term "mental illness" before it was understood that mental illness are diseases of the body.

    The difference between "mental disorder" and "mental illness," then is one of considering the origin of the condition.
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    Re: ADHD: Mental Illness Or Not

    Your link description uses the word DISORDER right in the link.
    The very first sentence in the article you linked has the word DISORDER in it.
    What are you not understanding here?
    YOU have a mental disorder according to the link you provided.
    I have mental illness. I also have used NAMI quite frequently.

    What does it matter?
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    You say TA MA TO,and I say TO MO TO..Patato,POtato..lets call the whole thing off..

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    Re: ADHD: Mental Illness Or Not

    Let's try this again...
    . A disorder is a disruption of regular physical or mental functions. And illness is a general state of unhealthiness OR a particular condition where the body does not work "normally". A disorder is a more specific type of illness. And, while we are at it, it also meets the definition for disease--"an impairment of the normal state of the living animal or plant body or one of its parts that interrupts or modifies the performance of the vital functions, is typically manifested by distinguishing signs and symptoms, and is a response to environmental factors (as malnutrition, industrial hazards, or climate), to specific infective agents (as worms, bacteria, or viruses), to inherent defects of the organism (as genetic anomalies), or to combinations of these factors",

    Oh, look...it meets the definition of all three.
    I call semantics.

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