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"But those men who know anything at all about the Light also know that there is a fierceness to its power, like the bare sword of the law, or the white burning of the sun." Suddenly his voice sounded to Will very strong, and very Welsh. "At the very heart, that is. Other things, like humanity, and mercy, and charity, that most good men hold more precious than all else, they do not come first for the Light. Oh, sometimes they are there; often, indeed. But in the very long run the concern of you people is with the absolute good, ahead of all else..."
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"You come from the Lord Adam and the Lady Eve", said Aslan. "And that is both honour enough to erect the head of the poorest beggar, and shame enough to bow the shoulders of the greatest emperor on earth; be content."
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Ok,as a study of the science..I think it is what it is,and I am not sure it is the best way to access memory with no damage. But as you say the science may be interesting to some. Not going to debate its merits or negatives,but in a purely science aspect,it is way to much effort for the outcome. As always,just my opinion.MAGIC is MAGIC,black OR white or even blood RED
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That is the million dollar question.MAGIC is MAGIC,black OR white or even blood RED
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Originally posted by Medusa View PostI could totally understand that.
So...what DO you do when you want to extract info from a non-cooperative person?
Just keep asking?
Give them some tea and sweets?
I'm actually not being snarky. What's the alternative?
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Any torture is unethical. I don't care if it is used for evil or "good" purposes. Torture takes us back to the days of the Holocaust, to the Witch hunts, Spanish Inquisition, etc... I don't care how it is used, what it is for, it is unethical and should never be used. There can be other ways to get what we want. I'm not trying to get on my high horse here, I guess I am, but I thought the U.S. wasn't the type of country to torture people.Anubisa
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Originally posted by anubisa View Postbut I thought the U.S. wasn't the type of country to torture people.
The US has been known to be very bad to people at times.Satan is my spirit animal
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Re: neuroscience vs torture
Originally posted by anubisa View PostAny torture is unethical. I don't care if it is used for evil or "good" purposes. Torture takes us back to the days of the Holocaust, to the Witch hunts, Spanish Inquisition, etc... I don't care how it is used, what it is for, it is unethical and should never be used. There can be other ways to get what we want. I'm not trying to get on my high horse here, I guess I am, but I thought the U.S. wasn't the type of country to torture people.life itself was a lightsaber in his hands; even in the face of treachery and death and hopes gone cold, he burned like a candle in the darkness. Like a star shining in the black eternity of space.
Yoda: Dark Rendezvous
"But those men who know anything at all about the Light also know that there is a fierceness to its power, like the bare sword of the law, or the white burning of the sun." Suddenly his voice sounded to Will very strong, and very Welsh. "At the very heart, that is. Other things, like humanity, and mercy, and charity, that most good men hold more precious than all else, they do not come first for the Light. Oh, sometimes they are there; often, indeed. But in the very long run the concern of you people is with the absolute good, ahead of all else..."
John Rowlands, The Grey King by Susan Cooper
"You come from the Lord Adam and the Lady Eve", said Aslan. "And that is both honour enough to erect the head of the poorest beggar, and shame enough to bow the shoulders of the greatest emperor on earth; be content."
Aslan, Prince Caspian by CS Lewis
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Originally posted by Medusa View PostHow do we feel about like non physical 'torture'. Solitary confinement, sleep deprivation, crappy food, Nickelback played on repeat? If torture has been proven to not help get the info, what have we been doing that gets the info?
Interesting article detailing positive reinforcement techniques in interrogation: https://globalecco.org/learning-from...interrogation-
Psychologically it makes sense. If you're captor begins to identify or like you the higher chance you will get reliable information. That is why the best interrogators have never been known for torture.
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Sorry Mask...did you expect any different?MAGIC is MAGIC,black OR white or even blood RED
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Originally posted by anunitu View PostSorry Mask...did you expect any different?�Experience is what you get when you didn't get what you wanted. And experience is often the most valuable thing you have to offer.�
― Randy Pausch, The Last Lecture
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Originally posted by ThePaganMafia View PostProbably, the alternative that yields the best and reliable information is indeed being nice and building a rapport.
Like look, they are going to try to be your bestie, it's a trap! Don't fall for it.
Anyone know what other countries do that don't torture though?Satan is my spirit animal
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Originally posted by Medusa View PostBut then wouldn't there be counter training to combat that?
Like look, they are going to try to be your bestie, it's a trap! Don't fall for it.
Originally posted by Medusa View PostAnyone know what other countries do that don't torture though?
Over 50 countries were involved in the CIA's torture program: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/1...n_6297832.html
I don't think there is a "master list" of countries that haven't tortured. But, it's safe to say it is a fairly common practice.
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That used to be called "Counter insurgency school" Goes back to the Vietnam war,perhaps before even.
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