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    Meternity leave... Really???

    So I across this interview with Meghann Foye about her new book "Meterinity". It goes on to say she has never had kids but feels that women, and to a lesser degree, men deserve to take a paid leave to give them "me" time to find themselves mid career. This came about because she was envious of other women who choose to take a more "traditional" role and get knocked up. She feels your more likely to be given some slack if you have to leave to go get your kids then take your girlfriend out for drinks cause she was stood up...

    http://nypost.com/2016/04/28/i-want-...ving-any-kids/

    So being in the culinary field I can honestly say at least in the places I worked you aren't given slack for having kids in fact you are more likely to get the crappier shifts be skipped over for promotion and advancement and have your thoughts and opinions ignored. She also goes to talk about going through a burn out and how this would help women(who don't have kids) and men keep from having these. "Bottom line: Women are bad at putting themselves first. But when you have a child you learn to self-advocate to put the needs of your family first. A well crafted "meternity" leave can give you these skills."

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    Re: Meternity leave... Really???

    I agree with this like I agree with taking 'cig' now known as 'e-cig' breaks at work. My co-worker takes e-cig breaks. I need to start taking a fake vape to work so I too can get these breaks.

    It's like that. At least for me.

    Now my boss ( a male) has two kids with his ex. And he moves us around the schedule due to child issues. So it's a real thing. Not just for women though. I have no children. But many times when asked to change my schedule and I just don't want to, I just say I have a family thing to do. I have to lie because if I just say nah, I want to watch tv on this particular day, I get guilted (or attempted) guilted to come in.
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    Re: Meternity leave... Really???

    The cig break thing drives me crazy, even when I did smoke I didn't take breaks at work but I had guys in the kitchen who got to come in early, clock in, and work because they had to have enough time to get their stuff done and take their smoke breaks.. In a kitchen its def different then retail you wind up covering for them while they take that break in a kitchen as long as we aren't in service you basically are left to your own devices to get your stuff done. No breaks during service. PERIOD.

    The only major time I have been inconvenienced by someone with kids was not their fault but my bosses because she wouldn't say no. I don't mind letting you have every other weekend off because you have your kids(I came from a divorced family I know how it goes) I don't even mind letting you work most day shifts because you have to get them what I mind is when I never get a weekend off because my boss allows you to have every weekend off because you have something to do with your kids.. but I have also had a boss let a guy do that because he was really into sports and needed to be off so he could watch the game.
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    Re: Meternity leave... Really???

    It's not real maternity leave or sick leave that causes problems. It's the day to day things. And it's not really about who has kids. It's the people who come in late, gossip and make personal calls, have coffee, and finally kick into gear after lunch, then have to leave early because of an emergency EVERY WEEK. Other people in the same job show up early or on time, get their work done, and are punished for it by being told to help the slackers. They're questioned about why they want to take a vacation day, etc. Telling a boss you need to leave early to let a plumber in is frowned upon, but say the nurse called and Jr. has a fever, and it's fine. THAT is the problem. Everyone needs to help their coworkers out once in a while, but allotted time off is to be respected and not abused or questioned.

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    Re: Meternity leave... Really???

    The issues is that 'me' time is going to be laughed at.
    Yeah I'm effing burnt. I need a day off extra this week.
    no.


    Yeah I have a doctor's appt for my kid.
    No problem.

    I want to go to this grand opening in another state for the weekend.
    nope.

    my kid has a birthday in another state this weekend.

    ok.

    The kid thing comes off more acceptable than saying it's just for your own personal reasons.

    It's not illegal. It's not even a legal issue. It's a society and what does it think is ok. Kid's lives are top of the list. I don't have a kid. Eff a kid. I'm at the top of my list.
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    Re: Meternity leave... Really???

    I get a certain number of hours of paid leave every pay period to take when I want to take it. I don't have to justify it, unless I'm calling out sick that day.

    I'll be honest though, most of my sick time is from sick kids. Lets face it, the building the better immune system time is terrible.
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    Re: Meternity leave... Really???

    Never did the "My kid" thing,but we had My ex's Mother at home with the kids. I would from time to time "Be sick",and all of us that worked in the production mail room did that,mainly because we worked so many hours. 2 hours a day during the week,and 8-10 on Saturday(every Saturday) so we were pulling like 18 hours of OT every week.
    We were told that the overtime was mandatory BUT when I got the labor code book,that was not the case,and it gave us some leverage.
    It came up when we were told we would not get our yearly bonus(based on company profits) percentage on over time,only on the 40 hour week. Considering our overtime amounted to almost 2 extra weeks each month,it hit the fan about not getting our percentage bonus on that amount. That is when we brought the labor code in about OT NOT being mandatory..so do not give us our bonus,then NO overtime period. The bonus was for working hard to bring up the bottom line,and with no OT,the bottom line would shrink.
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    Re: Meternity leave... Really???

    I think my annoyance with it so much is I believe in ME time. I take ME time, and think everyone should too. I don't think maternity leave is about ME time at all, and I guess I don't like that she compares them. You should already have a healthy routine of doing things for you, in my opinion but we know what opinions are like. Hawk I agree 100% don't abuse what you have.
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    Re: Meternity leave... Really???

    I don't think a women who's not pregnant shouldn't gat a maternal leave. Why because it's like getting a freebie for no reason at all.

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    Re: Meternity leave... Really???

    People in general should be given a certain amount of paid leave every year.

    My sons mother got 3 weeks of unpaid maternity leave. She almost couldn't take it because it was hard to pay the bills. We were both blackjack dealers at a casino. Paid leave accrued so slow I think I may have gotten 2 or 3 paid days in the two years I worked there. You also got no sick days or family days at all. Everything was on a point system. After 10 points accrued you were fired. No questions asked. A missed day equals 2 points. Double if during what they considered a holiday time frame. So if you got the flu Christmas week and didn't come to work for three days because you couldn't get out of bed your ass was looking for a job. One of our dealers got fired because her son was in the hospital after a horrific accident and she didn't come into work.

    Anyways, a lot of off topic but our workers need guaranteed leave. Paid maternity leave isn't required in the United States. Sick days aren't even required. There are a lot of issue when it comes to workers right in this country. I get that people get frustrated when they can't get time off like people who got kids and personal time off is a legitimate issue but it's fucked up that we live in the richest country ever and we can't give a working mother paid maternity leave.

    I realize I have not addressed the topic but I think there are some major issues with worker leave that go beyond this.

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