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    Re: Who controls the past controls the future

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    According to the Open Source Software license, with Linux, I DO own the software. I can share it, sell it, even make money off someone else's work as long as I include the license in the product and don't modify the license agreement. If you buy the phone you should be able to put any OS on it that you want.
    No legally you own a copy of the software user registration not the software itself. You can sell your license to another person, maybe even allow them to piggyback off your license but most software today has user limits on how many can register under a given number. However the actual software program is still owned by the corporation who developed and marketed the software. No different than buying Windows and getting a registration number but Microsoft still owns the software and its actual coding.

    Freeware is a bit different but even then I believe there is a legality of who owns the software and such. Especially hidden in all the check here boxes that allow you to download and install upon your platform.
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    Re: Who controls the past controls the future

    Open source is different than freeware. Open source can be freely modified and distributed, and is typically a community project. Dirty, dirty, socialism.
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    Re: Who controls the past controls the future

    Quote Originally Posted by monsno_leedra View Post
    No legally you own a copy of the software user registration not the software itself. You can sell your license to another person, maybe even allow them to piggyback off your license but most software today has user limits on how many can register under a given number. However the actual software program is still owned by the corporation who developed and marketed the software. No different than buying Windows and getting a registration number but Microsoft still owns the software and its actual coding.

    Freeware is a bit different but even then I believe there is a legality of who owns the software and such. Especially hidden in all the check here boxes that allow you to download and install upon your platform.
    Actual Open Source software released under GPL tends only to have the restrictions necessary to keep me from buying a copy qnd then treating it as proprietary. Hence why anyone who wants a copy of Red Hat software for free just downloads it under the name Cent-OS. The people running Cent-OS get a copy of Red Hat, pull out all Red Hat trademarks and logos, replace them with Cent-OS and release the software for free. Red Hat makes money off their service agreements instead of software. Of course, the other catch to Open Source illustrated by this example is that you don't just distribute software and the GPL. You also are required by the GPL to make source code available for minimal cost (i.e. at most, the cost of a disc and postage) to anyone who acquires the software from you and their rights to use and abuse the software are set by the GPL, not you. The GPL makes interesting reading if you have time.
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    Re: Who controls the past controls the future

    Quote Originally Posted by MaskedOne View Post
    Actual Open Source software released under GPL tends only to have the restrictions necessary to keep me from buying a copy qnd then treating it as proprietary. Hence why anyone who wants a copy of Red Hat software for free just downloads it under the name Cent-OS. The people running Cent-OS get a copy of Red Hat, pull out all Red Hat trademarks and logos, replace them with Cent-OS and release the software for free. Red Hat makes money off their service agreements instead of software. Of course, the other catch to Open Source illustrated by this example is that you don't just distribute software and the GPL. You also are required by the GPL to make source code available for minimal cost (i.e. at most, the cost of a disc and postage) to anyone who acquires the software from you and their rights to use and abuse the software are set by the GPL, not you. The GPL makes interesting reading if you have time.
    I stand corrected that sounds more like shareware vice freeware or other. I've seen lots of shareware that is set so you can "Improve" or "Change" it. To be honest those I tended to leave alone as unless you checked the code and really understood it who knew just what you might get. Especially if your code skills didn't match the new programs and such. Mine are way out of date so more of teaching an old dog new tricks than the benefit seems to be worth.
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    Re: Who controls the past controls the future

    I use nothing but Open Source and what I write is released under the same license.
    Apparently Linux has been used on phones for some time
    http://www.pcworld.com/article/25089...d_anymore.html
    Putting a new OS on it doesn't change the ID or function of the phone so you can keep your provider. If I was going to use a mobile phone I would definitely run Linux on it.

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