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    I talked to a few of the dozen Chicago police officers eventually called into the building, and they were irate. They were well-trained, and well-equipped to handle scenarios such as this. They wanted to do their job, and remove the protesters, but administrators demanded they stand passively and watch.
    From DePaul University's website:

    "Together we provide the leadership that enables the university to achieve excellence in its educational mission, serve its diverse student body, and maximize its strategic capacities. "

    Presumably they respect diversity, as long as you toe the line.
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    Wait a sec, there were actual threats of physical violence and the admins successfully prevented police action?

    How'd that work out? Yeah, sure, they're on a university campus and admins can allow a number of things but I'm a little surprised the officers didn't quote whatever the local variation of this was, ignore the administration and start removing people from campus. That doesn't require any input or consent from campus, just requires the speaker to interpret a threat as serious and the officers to be sufficiently pissed off not to play nice any more. The administrative ability to forgive stupid does not overrule city or state code + irritated law enforcement. Being a general dick on university property is one thing because its the private property of the university. Threats of bodily harm fall in that special area where the cops should have had all the justification they needed to tell the admins to **** off and escort people out. At least, I'd have thought they did. Maybe the law is sillier than I think it is but really?!?!?!?
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      #3
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      That is a wholely disgraceful thing.

      These things that are taking place on campuses - in the name of fixing the minds of students are one the many embarassments our country is going through. I've heard too many examples of this to be syrprised, though.
      Last edited by B. de Corbin; 26 May 2016, 16:40.
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        From one of the comments on the article: "People can only be evicted from property on the say-so of the owner."

        The cops might not have actually seen the woman threaten Milo, and definitely would not have heard any of the threats. It was a real ruckus, and they were off to the side.

        If you wanted to get a bit more conspiratorial, the County Sheriff did a talk the day after for the DePaul Democrats club. So office politics might be at play.
        Last edited by Denarius; 26 May 2016, 16:52.
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          I suspect all these college 'adults' were probably all 'special snowflakes' in schools that offered up 'participation' medals to eeeeeeeeeeveryone, even if you were absent and in a coma.

          I'm shocked these will be our future work place citizens. Pansies. The whole lot of them.
          Last edited by Medusa; 26 May 2016, 17:00.
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            I've criticized Obama a lot, but he is absolutely right about colleges and I respect that. Very much.
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              Re: University speaking event silenced by violent protest

              Originally posted by Denarius View Post
              From one of the comments on the article: "People can only be evicted from property on the say-so of the owner."

              The cops might not have actually seen the woman threaten Milo, and definitely would not have heard any of the threats. It was a real ruckus, and they were off to the side.

              If you wanted to get a bit more conspiratorial, the County Sheriff did a talk the day after for the DePaul Democrats club. So office politics might be at play.
              Eviction involves a property owner,

              "You have the right to..." and accompanying bracelets don't. With that said, if they didn't catch the threat and no one specifically requested them to handle it then maybe it gets by. The other possibility that I've seen mentioned on another board is that if the cops weren't actually on hand in official capacity then their options change. I've seen people saying that the police were off duty cops called in as security. If they're operating as security instead of actual police then they answer to the admins not the city. Of course, if that's what happened then perhaps one of them upon realizing that they were being ordered to watch crimes happen should have made a call to on duty police requesting them to come in. Might piss off the administration but if you're being ordered to watch a crime then taking an alternate option sounds like a good idea.
              life itself was a lightsaber in his hands; even in the face of treachery and death and hopes gone cold, he burned like a candle in the darkness. Like a star shining in the black eternity of space.

              Yoda: Dark Rendezvous

              "But those men who know anything at all about the Light also know that there is a fierceness to its power, like the bare sword of the law, or the white burning of the sun." Suddenly his voice sounded to Will very strong, and very Welsh. "At the very heart, that is. Other things, like humanity, and mercy, and charity, that most good men hold more precious than all else, they do not come first for the Light. Oh, sometimes they are there; often, indeed. But in the very long run the concern of you people is with the absolute good, ahead of all else..."

              John Rowlands, The Grey King by Susan Cooper

              "You come from the Lord Adam and the Lady Eve", said Aslan. "And that is both honour enough to erect the head of the poorest beggar, and shame enough to bow the shoulders of the greatest emperor on earth; be content."

              Aslan, Prince Caspian by CS Lewis


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                I watched the livestream. One of the event organizers specifically states she is calling the police and then later uniformed officers arrive. There was private security from the beginning.
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                  Originally posted by Denarius View Post
                  I watched the livestream. One of the event organizers specifically states she is calling the police and then later uniformed officers arrive. There was private security from the beginning.
                  Yeah that one falls into, I really want to know what prevented the uniforms from marching several people out in cuffs. A couple witnesses telling them that threats of violence were made should've been enough. It might not have been enough to do anything long term but it should've given them the authority to march straight past the admins and acquire involved parties. It also should've given them the authority to arrest any admin that did more than whine loudly on the sidelines about it.
                  life itself was a lightsaber in his hands; even in the face of treachery and death and hopes gone cold, he burned like a candle in the darkness. Like a star shining in the black eternity of space.

                  Yoda: Dark Rendezvous

                  "But those men who know anything at all about the Light also know that there is a fierceness to its power, like the bare sword of the law, or the white burning of the sun." Suddenly his voice sounded to Will very strong, and very Welsh. "At the very heart, that is. Other things, like humanity, and mercy, and charity, that most good men hold more precious than all else, they do not come first for the Light. Oh, sometimes they are there; often, indeed. But in the very long run the concern of you people is with the absolute good, ahead of all else..."

                  John Rowlands, The Grey King by Susan Cooper

                  "You come from the Lord Adam and the Lady Eve", said Aslan. "And that is both honour enough to erect the head of the poorest beggar, and shame enough to bow the shoulders of the greatest emperor on earth; be content."

                  Aslan, Prince Caspian by CS Lewis


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                    #10
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                    Milo stated that he wants to sue, and the DePaul Republicans stated something to that effect as well, which should bring more details to light.

                    My money is on the Sheriff being involved.
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                      It is kind of a lot of semi-violent and just plain violent things happening. Takes me back to the 70's..
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                        #12
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                        ...And, wouldn't you know it, no lessons were learned.





                        There was also a bomb threat.

                        Way to prove him wrong, that'll show everyone that liberal extremism isn't a problem in colleges.
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