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    Equality for people with a disability

    I read this article this morning on the Poe calling for the sacraments to be made available for people with a disability. I was skeptical of the title because I couldn't believe it wasn't the case already. There's a few suggestions and remarks by the Pope that are so common sense, I can't believe it's not already happening. Eg offering to 'prepare' a person who is deaf through sign language.
    https://cruxnow.com/vatican/2016/06/...ss-sacraments/

    One of the statements he made here reminded me of a post Thalassa made recently quoting Phillip Carr-Gomm and the Law of the Changing Tide. Her quote included explanation of how we can make other people's reality better. This is what the Pope had to say: [/quote] the world doesn't become better for the apparently "perfect" people living in it, but through solidarity, Mutual acceptance and respect.[/quote]

    I very much hope that Catholic parishes heed the Pope's words on this. It is a disgrace to exclude people because of a condition that cannot be helped. After all, it's not what goes into the mouth that makes someone clean or unclean, it is matters of the heart.

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    Re: Equality for people with a disability

    This pope is the best thing to happen to Catholics in 2000 years.
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    Re: Equality for people with a disability

    It is a strange thing that a new pope has to point out the actual words and meanings that that Jesus guy said so clearly..
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    Re: Equality for people with a disability

    Quote Originally Posted by B. de Corbin View Post
    This pope is the best thing to happen to Catholics in 2000 years.
    Agreed! So much so, people from other denominations believe him to be the anti-Christ or whatever. To quote George Bernard Shaw: all great truths began as heresy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azvanna View Post
    Agreed! So much so, people from other denominations believe him to be the anti-Christ or whatever. To quote George Bernard Shaw: all great truths began as heresy.

    And Plato - The excessive increase of anything causes a reaction in the opposite direction.
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    Re: Equality for people with a disability

    Quote Originally Posted by B. de Corbin View Post
    And Plato - The excessive increase of anything causes a reaction in the opposite direction.
    Oh my goodness you hit a nerve there!!! This exact thing has happened in my church's music team recently and ended with the Worship Pastor being moved to a different department. I'm going to put that on my team's facebook page. Lol

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    Re: Equality for people with a disability

    I'm not surprised. Catholics of yore (and side eyeing those of now) still believe epilepsy or mental illness was the sign of the devil. Right along side a back mole. So this is a good move forward. And so crappy he has to remind the church goers that this should be happening. He's going to drag Catholics out of the dark ages eventually.

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    I understand,I had to do catechism because of my FRENCH Catholic Grandmother,almost as strict as Irish Catholic..or maybe Spanish (inquisition) Catholic..
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    Re: Equality for people with a disability

    One of my biggest problems with magical thinking (and by this, I mean the idea that if you only work hard enough, spend thrifty enough, pray hard enough, have enough faith, etc., it will all be okay. And if it isn't, it's your own fault because you had to have done something wrong. You called in sick, you didn't pray enough, you secretly lusted after that cute girl, you just didn't try hard enough....because if you had, you wouldn't have been hit by a drunk driver, you wouldn't have been laid off, your mom wouldn't have cancer, you'd make enough money not to need food stamps.

    Which is all pretty much BS.

    I don't care if it's a for of Christianity or Paganism, sometime shit just happens. And yes, sometimes it happens because we make terrible choices, but everyone makes terrible choices quite regularly, and most of the time those terrible choices have very little consequence. People shouldn't be unduly punished for the Perfect Storm sort of scenario, when most of the time, the situation itself is punishment enough (especially if no one is actually hurt).
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    Re: Equality for people with a disability

    What some call magical thinking, others call faith. Which some call bs. And around and around we go....

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