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    I started a petition, if anyone's interested.

    I want to take back the skies from greedy corporations and the tyrannical government that unjustly usurped it from us!

    Help me restore property rights to the Common Law standard of ad coelum.
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    Re: I started a petition, if anyone's interested.

    I signed it Denarius. Hope I can help you.
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    In the light of the FAA's recent decision on commercial drones, this is probably a good idea.

    I don't necessarily need anything going into outer space and to the core, but a reasonable distance of a) not spying on me and b) not taking water, oil, etc out from under me even if from an adjacent property would be good.
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    You have a right to the property you own but not the mineral or water rights that are shared. You have the right to the air space that you can use above your property. Beyond that the space is common - anyone can use it. What has the fifth amendment to do with property rights?
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    Um, no. I own mineral rights on land on which I do not own surface rights. Water rights are not shared, or cities would not be able to sell it to you.
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    The right to use water that flows across my land and the land of my two neighbors is limited. We can use up to a certain amount for irrigation but we cannot restrict the flow. The three of us cannot use the water completely because it is shared with people down stream too. In a town you pay for the infrastructure and maintenance of the delivery service as well as the purification process by what you use. You also pay for waste water based on your total usage.
    In some places you cannot store rain water because the town or county relies on it to replenish the ground water. (aquifer)
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    What has the fifth amendment to do with property rights?
    The Takings Clause: "nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation."

    The government has to pay us if it wants to appropriate private property for public use, SCOTUS fundamentally redefined what our property rights were so it could bypass eminent domain.
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    What's private property?

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    Any property, real or personal that I have bought, received in exchange for work, won in an honest game of chance, or been given as a gift is my private property.
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    It's not your private property if it was a dishonest game of chance?

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