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    Re: They are willing to destroy this country

    If memory serves here, this process is a long one. I suspect we will be almost out of this term before we reach a conclusion. So we would end up with a very brief Pelosi presidency if they were both ousted.

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    Re: They are willing to destroy this country

    Quote Originally Posted by Prickly Pear View Post
    If memory serves here, this process is a long one. I suspect we will be almost out of this term before we reach a conclusion. So we would end up with a very brief Pelosi presidency if they were both ousted.
    That make take a long time but at least the impeachment process is the first step to impeach Chump. Pence will have his chance to join the impeachment party.

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    Re: They are willing to destroy this country

    Quote Originally Posted by MaskedOne View Post
    Sure, there is. US continuance of government plans are rather long*. If Trump and Pence are simultaneously impeached and convicted then we get President Pelosi. Not my favorite option but I'm really not feeling picky right now. We may suck at removing presidents but we have in-depth contingencies to prevent a power vacuum at that level.

    * Going of wiki, the current line of succession runs through 17 different offices. 14 of those offices are held by people who are definitely eligible to serve as POTUS if necessary and two of which are held by people who might be eligible. The only person in line who definitely can't replace Trump is Chao because she's a naturalized citizen and therefore Constitutionally prohibited from serving as President.
    Yeah, the system is "organized" rather simply...but I'm talking in terms of ramifications, mainly from followers. If Trump being in office empowered racists/violence, then the spectacle of the ongoing proceedings are going to get even uglier. And with the turn over, yeah Pelosi can step in, but then the "us vs them" mentality of the two party system is gonna make a gridlock on actually getting anything fixed or improved.

    Maybe I'm just being pessimistic, but even if everything goes smoothly with the impeachment and we manage to you know, get the kids out of cages and stop with the homestead terrorism, there's still a lot of trauma to process, and a lot of noise that's going to be drowning everything else out.
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    Re: They are willing to destroy this country

    Even being impeached doesn't mean he'll be removed from office. People seem to forget that has already happened as well. Clinton was impeached and remained in office. it also doesn't mean he couldn't run for a second term of office and win again.
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    Re: They are willing to destroy this country

    Quote Originally Posted by monsno_leedra View Post
    Even being impeached doesn't mean he'll be removed from office. People seem to forget that has already happened as well. Clinton was impeached and remained in office. it also doesn't mean he couldn't run for a second term of office and win again.
    Ehh, I put even odds on people forgetting and people just not feeling like saying, "Impeached and convicted" every time so they use Impeach and expect the other party to understand they mean both. I can safely say that I'm well aware that Impeachmemt is step 1 in a 2 step procedure. I can also safely say that I'm lazy so there is a distinct possibility that I have not always said, "impeached and convicted."
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    Re: They are willing to destroy this country

    Quote Originally Posted by MaskedOne View Post
    Ehh, I put even odds on people forgetting and people just not feeling like saying, "Impeached and convicted" every time so they use Impeach and expect the other party to understand they mean both. I can safely say that I'm well aware that Impeachmemt is step 1 in a 2 step procedure. I can also safely say that I'm lazy so there is a distinct possibility that I have not always said, "impeached and convicted."
    I'd agree that people probably have forgotten. I just find it funny. The media, celebs, the general public all screaming "Impeach" yet it doesn't mean it will be a conviction or removal from office. We've had two sitting Presidents impeached and neither was convicted nor removed from office. Realistically, there won't be a conviction here either.
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    Re: They are willing to destroy this country

    It will tell us, though, which politicians are interested in protecting a law-breaking president, and which are interested in protecting the Constitution of The United States of America.

    One of those indicates a patriot, the other a traitor to the country.

    Usually, things are confusing, and right and wrong are, perhaps, subject to interpretation. Sometimes, though, there are only two sides, one is clearly right, the other is clearly wrong, and each person has to decide which side they are on because not chosing puts you on the side of "wrong."

    This is one of those times.
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    Re: They are willing to destroy this country

    Well, today's press conference with the Presidents of the USA and Finland was...interesting. Meanwhile, Bernie Sanders had heart surgery. I wonder if he'll continue his campaign. He has good ideas, but they have loose ends. Medicare for all sounds great, but as it is now, Medicare for seniors costs about $135./month for the additional parts you need, and even all that doesn't provide the level of coverage you get pre-Medicare from a private-pay or employer-based plan. So what are they going to do? Offer a better package and charge everyone $1K a month? Offer the same as it is now and make people pay more in taxes for it? Either way, (excuse me for sounding jaded, but I am jaded), I don't see a possible scenario where people will get as good or better insurance than what's in place now, and have the same amount of money left at the end of the month, particularly Social Security recipients. Remember, the ACA was supposed to solve all these problems, but every loophole that could be found, was.

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    just something that hit me.

    How in almost 25 years into this new century are we still dealing with the things we spent blood and treasure to kill off in the last century in two wars to end ALL WARS?
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    Re: They are willing to destroy this country

    Quote Originally Posted by anunitu View Post
    just something that hit me.

    How in almost 25 years into this new century are we still dealing with the things we spent blood and treasure to kill off in the last century in two wars to end ALL WARS?
    They discovered that war makes money.

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