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    Re: Against secular Buddhism

    I hope scholars speak out loud and correct those distortions and misappropriations. I know people will continue to have false beliefs since those beliefs are comforting to them.

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    Re: Against secular Buddhism

    Quote Originally Posted by saura View Post
    Religious scholars usually know what is the "Pure" manifestation of a belief is. We are no longer in those dark ages with lack of information where people used to believe in whatever they like. I really do not care if people start their own religion and claim that its a belief which they have invented on their own what I do not like is cultural misappropriation.
    Religion evolves. There is no such thing as a "pure" manifestation of any religion. Religion is a purely human anthropological and sociopolitical construct that functions as a part of society. It has a number of functions, and when the need for those functions change, religion itself changes.
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    Re: Against secular Buddhism

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    There is no such thing as spiritual but not religious. People who hold such views are moderates who have not understood the implications of the existence of their deities. They are the people who just want to get on with their lives rather than face the reality which exists out there.
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    There is reality out side....hmmmm,you are sure it is reality...I thought it was just some reality soap opera..
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    Re: Against secular Buddhism

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    Thanks for telling me about myself.
    Lol...

    I can't say what I'm thinking now, I'd have to put myself in time out.
    “You have never answered but you did not need to. If I stand at the ocean I can hear you with your thousand voices. Sometimes you shout, hilarious laughter that taunts all questions. Other nights you are silent as death, a mirror in which the stars show themselves. Then I think you want to tell me something, but you never do. Of course I know I have written letters to no-one. But what if I find a trident tomorrow?" ~~Letters to Poseidon, Cees Nooteboom

    “We still carry this primal relationship to the Earth within our consciousness, even if we have long forgotten it. It is a primal recognition of the wonder, beauty, and divine nature of the Earth. It is a felt reverence for all that exists. Once we bring this foundational quality into our consciousness, we will be able to respond to our present man-made crisis from a place of balance, in which our actions will be grounded in an attitude of respect for all of life. This is the nature of real sustainability.”
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    Re: Against secular Buddhism

    Quote Originally Posted by thalassa View Post
    Lol...

    I can't say what I'm thinking now, I'd have to put myself in time out.
    This is literally the new age version of the old Christian slogan 'if you could just see one sunset or sunrise or sunnyside up egg' you would know...' something like that.
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    Re: Against secular Buddhism

    Quote Originally Posted by anunitu View Post
    I had a friend in SF that was Jewish and also followed Buddhism to a large degree,but also kept her Jewish faith at the same time. Different strokes for different folks.
    Jewish is also an ethnicity in addition to a religion, so it is entirely possible to be both (or more) simultaneously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thalassa View Post
    The mistake is made when people consider any religious tradition to be monolithic. Variation is as great as the number of people that are practitioners in any given tradition. Sure, we can divvy them up into similar-ish groups (or denominations) within broad religious categories, but at the end of the day, no one believes all the same things in the same way, even in the same church/temple/mosque/circle/whatever. Buddhism as a general religious category is quite varied, and (like most traditions that have succeeded over the years) flexible enough to accommodate the range of human experiences and human imagination, even if some sects are more rigid in their thinking than others.
    Agreed. Additionally, Buddhism is a religion with a great deal of history considering it's been around since like, 6BC? Don't quote me on that but you get my drift - the older a religion is, the more it has evolved.
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