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Opinionated
- Jun 2013
- 2447
- Northern Tradition Shaminist Demonolator. Or something along those lines...
- female
- Adelaide, Australia
Re: The Vigvisir
For an image of the Vegvisir: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/F...e:Vegvisir.svg
Originally posted by Boduos View Post- Are you familiar with the vigvisir and do you use it?
- If you use it, how do you use it?
- What in your personal opinion is the symbol of the Vigvisir meant?
- How could a todays version of the Vigvisir work and look like?
I am not generally a fan of appropriating symbols and using them for purposes that they weren't originally intended. I think that the Vegvisir would be a good symbol to use if you were a pilot, sailor, hiker, camper, truckie or some other profession/hobby that had you outside wandering around or traveling on a regular basis. But not for the average Heathen/Asatruar/NTer/whatever. It's not the sort of thing that I would use in my personal practice, especially given that it is actually a relatively modern symbol that is not attested to in the actual Viking age or earlier.
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Originally posted by Boduos View Post
The questions are:
- Are you familiar with the vigvisir and do you use it?
- If you use it, how do you use it?
- What in your personal opinion is the symbol of the Vigvisir meant?
- How could a todays version of the Vigvisir work and look like?
The Vegvisir is a symbol for finding your way, eg when travelling or finding ones way in a storm.
Todays version of the vegvisir could look like this:
What I find very interesting is the idea of the Vigvisir of a compass guiding one on a journey. I ones follow the deeper thoughts of this, one can imagine a compass that is not directed by the wheel of the year or the cardinalpoints but the main directives of that journey. The Vigvisir is in itself an impressive symbolism by the idea itself.
This time last year I did roll my car though and Im only home 2 weekend from now till July too so a bit of help in travel is still appreciated.ThorSon's milkshake brings all the PF girls to the yard - Volcaniclastic
RIP
I have never been across the way
Seen the desert and the birds
You cut your hair short
Like a shush to an insult
The world had been yelling
Since the day you were born
Revolting with anger
While it smiled like it was cute
That everything was shit.
- J. Wylder
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Opinionated
- Jun 2013
- 2447
- Northern Tradition Shaminist Demonolator. Or something along those lines...
- female
- Adelaide, Australia
Re: The Vigvisir
Originally posted by Boduos View PostThe Huld Manuscript is from 1847. The Galdrabok is not from the 17th century as I posted before, but from the 16th century. So I think that if we dont have some kinda timeloop Galdrabok came first. But its no problem, maybe I am wrong. I would really like to learn more about where the wisdom of the staves was handed down from.
Now the issue, I believe, is that Stephen Flowers (aka Edred Thorsson) published a translation of the Galdrabok, in which he includes symbols from other sources. In Flowers' book, the Vegvisir is listed in the appendix, under the section 'From the Huld Manuscript'. I can only assume that the there has been some misinformation perpetuated somewhere along the line that the original Gladrabok also included the Vegvisir (which it doesn't).
My other concern is that we can't really assume that anything in the Huld Manuscript is 'Viking', because it dates from later than the Viking Age. We can't even really assume that anything in the Galdrabok is 'Viking' either, because it also dates from after the conversion of Iceland. Now I'm not inferring that you have claimed it's a Viking symbol, because you haven't... I just bring it up here because I think it's relevant to the fact that there's a lot of misinformation out there about the symbol. If you do a basic search rather than looking at original dates and anthropological texts, is easy to assume that the Vegvisir (and other symbols) are something that they are actually not.
Originally posted by Boduos View Posthat I find very interesting is the idea of the Vigvisir of a compass guiding one on a journey. I ones follow the deeper thoughts of this, one can imagine a compass that is not directed by the wheel of the year or the cardinalpoints but the main directives of that journey. The Vigvisir is in itself an impressive symbolism by the idea itself.
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Opinionated
- Jun 2013
- 2447
- Northern Tradition Shaminist Demonolator. Or something along those lines...
- female
- Adelaide, Australia
Re: The Vigvisir
Originally posted by Heka View PostThis time last year I did roll my car though and Im only home 2 weekend from now till July too so a bit of help in travel is still appreciated.
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Originally posted by Rae'ya View Post
You are on the road a lot, Heka, so I kinda think you count as one of those 'wandering around traveling a lot' sort of people I mentioned beforeThorSon's milkshake brings all the PF girls to the yard - Volcaniclastic
RIP
I have never been across the way
Seen the desert and the birds
You cut your hair short
Like a shush to an insult
The world had been yelling
Since the day you were born
Revolting with anger
While it smiled like it was cute
That everything was shit.
- J. Wylder
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