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    Why humans are screwed...

    ...and what to do about it.

    Yes, the answer is "love."

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    Re: Why humans are screwed...

    As I was pondering(from time to time I fall into a reverie,and not unlike a day dream,I ponder) this very idea was peculating in my melon like mind...The idea the the WHOLE species has a built in "Crazy time defect" that we never acknowledge,but are effected by.

    Thanks B. De.,for posting this interesting idea.
    Also gonna give you props.
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    Re: Why humans are screwed...

    So we have to fight our nature instead of embracing it? I don't think so.

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    Re: Why humans are screwed...

    Quote Originally Posted by SeanRave View Post
    So we have to fight our nature instead of embracing it? I don't think so.

    "Have to"?

    No. Nobody has to do much of anything. It would be nice if they understood the choices, though.

    But I admit - even that is asking a lot from some people.
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    Re: Why humans are screwed...

    Quote Originally Posted by B. de Corbin View Post
    "Have to"?

    No. Nobody has to do much of anything. It would be nice if they understood the choices, though.

    But I admit - even that is asking a lot from some people.
    I think people do understand their choices, and they understand the consequences as well. Underestimating mankind on that point is ridiculous. Modern doomsaying.

    Also, on the bit of love. You cannot force people to love eachother, you cannot force people to have any emotion towards future generations. Calling critical thinking and fact-acceptance "love of truth" is a far-fetched way for them to make a trio of love-solutions. And everyone loves truth. Their truth. The only love we need is love for one-self. True love of oneself. Knowing what makes us happy and fulfilled. And surprise ! Most times it comes from positive human interaction, so true selfishness or love for oneself is a path to cooperation and long-term thinking. Being randomly selfless and altruist only leads to disorganised and inefficient resource spending (altruist, donation-based organizations that make little impact on their fields despite the humoungous amounts of money they manipulate).

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    Re: Why humans are screwed...

    Modern doomsaying? Oh dear...

    There is no danger in ever more massive weapons, biological weapons, global warming, and stuff like that?

    And regarding love... Yes, nobody can force another to love anything. It's a choice. Each person, via choice, is complicit in creating the world he/she/it lives in.

    Truth? Your truth, my truth, who's truth? I don't think you were paying attention. The truth that was being presented in the lil' cartoon was the truth of verifiable external reality, not the vague, subjective "truthiness" that you are inserting into the conversation. They are two different things that happen to share the same name. Don't confuse them.
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    Re: Why humans are screwed...

    I hope I can learn to act on my love for the unborn more. I am concerned with their future, but not enough to cease using disposable nappies altogether (lol?). Corbin, I'd love your take on this as maybe we've touched on the subject of seeing humanity as a whole before. In previous posts, I've been of the opinion that individuals need to have a sense of responsibility towards their community for life to run smoothly. Sorry, so vague. You have replied something along the lines of the actualisation of the individual is of utmost importance. At some point, my preferences are going to interfere with yours. At what point do we start considering the needs of our community as a whole over the individual?

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    Re: Why humans are screwed...

    The two things are not mutually exclusive. In fact, most of the time they go hand-in-hand - what is "good" for my family, and local community, is also good for all.

    If, at home, I demonstrate real love for my children, honesty, integrity, compassion, love of truth, and awareness that what happens here-and-now has long term effects that will be part of what constructs the future, my children will be aware, their children will be aware, their children's children will be aware (prolly - the future is uncertain).

    This is how the world becomes better, even when I don't perfectly follow my own intentions (we also started with cloth diapers and gave up on them. Maybe the better thing would be to find a way to make recyclable diapers?).
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    Re: Why humans are screwed...

    I do get this....it turns out to be lesser of two bad things..If I used paper plates(Midrowavable) to heat my food,or use a bowl it comes to what process has the largest impact on the environment. Paper saves needing to use hot water and detergent BUT paper is made using resources,and power to manufacture them,and adds to the accumulating garbage of unrecyclables(maybe)

    Many things require you to understand your Carbon footprint.
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    Re: Why humans are screwed...

    Quote Originally Posted by B. de Corbin View Post
    The two things are not mutually exclusive. In fact, most of the time they go hand-in-hand - what is "good" for my family, and local community, is also good for all.

    If, at home, I demonstrate real love for my children, honesty, integrity, compassion, love of truth, and awareness that what happens here-and-now has long term effects that will be part of what constructs the future, my children will be aware, their children will be aware, their children's children will be aware (prolly - the future is uncertain).

    This is how the world becomes better, even when I don't perfectly follow my own intentions (we also started with cloth diapers and gave up on them. Maybe the better thing would be to find a way to make recyclable diapers?).
    I love the recylabe diaper idea.

    So why do you think it's so hard for us to extend our love of family to strangers? Even familial love has it boundaries.

    I'm not so sure it's a lack of love but at times there is simply genuine incongruity with differing ways of life. We war for many reasons, not the least of these being a response to an idea. We believe our ideas are the best. Our way of living is the best. We cannot suffer defiance. One of those solutions 'love of the unborn' could be so twisted. I'm sure many nuns in Australia believed that they were doing the right thing for the child when they took in and re-educated stolen aboriginal children. Love balanced with something else...

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