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    Re: Pearl Harbor

    Another thought - in no way intended to detract from this thread although please bear in mind that many people in the UK strongly resented US hesitation in joining in - is this:

    According to Wiki, 2,335 American servicemen were killed and 1,143 were wounded. Eighteen ships were sunk or run aground, including five battleships.

    Now take a look at this page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attack...-el-K%C3%A9bir

    To paraphrase, this was when the French Fleet was bombed by air on 3rd July 1940. 1,297 french sailors were killed, five ships damaged and a battleship sank.

    Who did the deed? The British. Their Allies. And they did it after France capitulated to Germany to prevent their ships being used against Britain.
    And hardly anyone outside of France has even heard of it.
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    Re: Pearl Harbor

    Quote Originally Posted by anunitu View Post
    we require a place to allow a reason for our reaching for death and destruction in war,and at times wishing some redemption will not require us to face the truth that war is never the path to freedom,but just the tightening of our collective chains to our loss over and over again, but will never lead to and end to the human plague of our destruction of our eternal souls from our lack of any true vision of our collective guilt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tylluan Penry View Post
    Another thought - in no way intended to detract from this thread although please bear in mind that many people in the UK strongly resented US hesitation in joining in - is this:

    According to Wiki, 2,335 American servicemen were killed and 1,143 were wounded. Eighteen ships were sunk or run aground, including five battleships.

    Now take a look at this page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attack...-el-K%C3%A9bir

    To paraphrase, this was when the French Fleet was bombed by air on 3rd July 1940. 1,297 french sailors were killed, five ships damaged and a battleship sank.

    Who did the deed? The British. Their Allies. And they did it after France capitulated to Germany to prevent their ships being used against Britain.
    And hardly anyone outside of France has even heard of it.
    You're right. I never heard of it. I also thought that the French were forced into helping Germany. Germany captured France in War World II if I'm correct. That's crazy as hell.
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    Re: Pearl Harbor

    Quote Originally Posted by anubisa View Post
    Big words anu and never truer.

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    You're right. I never heard of it. I also thought that the French were forced into helping Germany. Germany captured France in War World II if I'm correct. That's crazy as hell.
    France fell very early in the war, it was not however entirely directly controlled. Instead there was a short lived puppet government

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vichy_France

    that collaborrated rather heavily with Germany running southern France. Northern France stayed under military occupation.
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