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    Question Can Neutral People Expressed Their Opinion?

    Can neutral people express their opinion on any topic that's discussed?

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    Re: Can Neutral People Expressed Their Opinion?

    In general or on PF?

    In general, yes.

    On PF? I don't really evaluate a comment's neutrality or lack there of when modding. I generally evaluate whether

    1) It violates a rule
    2) The topic is banned
    3) The comment is going to derail an existing thread
    4) The comment is going to provoke a shitstorm that I will need to deal with
    5) The comment belong in a different section of the board

    If the above five criteria all result in a solid NO then I move along. If one or more of them result in a solid maybe then I monitor the thread. Sometimes I monitor openly and sometimes I pretend not to see it so that people have extra time to screw up. If any category with the possible exception of the fifth results in a solid YES then I fish out my tyrant hat and everyone gets to see cranky MO.
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    Re: Can Neutral People Expressed Their Opinion?

    Quote Originally Posted by MaskedOne View Post
    In general or on PF?

    In general, yes.

    On PF? I don't really evaluate a comment's neutrality or lack there of when modding. I generally evaluate whether

    1) It violates a rule
    2) The topic is banned
    3) The comment is going to derail an existing thread
    4) The comment is going to provoke a shitstorm that I will need to deal with
    5) The comment belong in a different section of the board

    If the above five criteria all result in a solid NO then I move along. If one or more of them result in a solid maybe then I monitor the thread. Sometimes I monitor openly and sometimes I pretend not to see it so that people have extra time to screw up. If any category with the possible exception of the fifth results in a solid YES then I fish out my tyrant hat and everyone gets to see cranky MO.
    I meant in general.

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    Re: Can Neutral People Expressed Their Opinion?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bartmanhomer View Post
    Can neutral people express their opinion on any topic that's discussed?
    Just playing the Devil's advocate but if your neutral how can you really have an opinion on the topic? Neutrality would seem to imply you have no preference for the material. I'd think for most of us, I admit speculative on my part, that we'd just move on if it was truly a neutral subject for us.
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    Re: Can Neutral People Expressed Their Opinion?

    Quote Originally Posted by monsno_leedra View Post
    Just playing the Devil's advocate but if your neutral how can you really have an opinion on the topic? Neutrality would seem to imply you have no preference for the material. I'd think for most of us, I admit speculative on my part, that we'd just move on if it was truly a neutral subject for us.
    That's a good point there.

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    Re: Can Neutral People Expressed Their Opinion?

    monsno makes a good point, I'd say the same.

    But for the sake of the argument, let's say you can possibly be neutral. I think there's more to it than whether you CAN express your opinion, that's a pretty short yes or no answer.

    Can you? Certainly. Nobody can really stop you.

    Can you do it without social repercussions? that's a lot harder to say. Just because it's neutral doesn't mean it's right.

    Should you? again. much more nuanced, it depends a lot on the forum, and on the topic. sometimes adding a "neutral" opinion is just entirely unhelpful and hurtful. For example, if the topic is one that is emotionally painful to one or more of the people involved, even more so if it's a topic that has no effect on you at all, you have to be really careful balancing "neutral" with empathy and compassion. if you're simply offering an opinion that's not constructive in some way, probably shouldn't.

    Are you entitled to? No. you're always entitled to have your opinion of course, but you're not entitled to other peoples time and energy, so while you might express it as much as you want, you can't really expect anyone to hear it out.

    Mostly though... if you think your opinion is neutral, take some time to examine if it really is, usually you'll find you're still biased in some way. And then think whether you SHOULD share it. Just cause you can do something doesn't mean you should do it.
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    Re: Can Neutral People Expressed Their Opinion?

    Quote Originally Posted by iris View Post
    monsno makes a good point, I'd say the same.

    But for the sake of the argument, let's say you can possibly be neutral. I think there's more to it than whether you CAN express your opinion, that's a pretty short yes or no answer.

    Can you? Certainly. Nobody can really stop you.

    Can you do it without social repercussions? that's a lot harder to say. Just because it's neutral doesn't mean it's right.

    Should you? again. much more nuanced, it depends a lot on the forum, and on the topic. sometimes adding a "neutral" opinion is just entirely unhelpful and hurtful. For example, if the topic is one that is emotionally painful to one or more of the people involved, even more so if it's a topic that has no effect on you at all, you have to be really careful balancing "neutral" with empathy and compassion. if you're simply offering an opinion that's not constructive in some way, probably shouldn't.

    Are you entitled to? No. you're always entitled to have your opinion of course, but you're not entitled to other peoples time and energy, so while you might express it as much as you want, you can't really expect anyone to hear it out.

    Mostly though... if you think your opinion is neutral, take some time to examine if it really is, usually you'll find you're still biased in some way. And then think whether you SHOULD share it. Just cause you can do something doesn't mean you should do it.
    Wow. I didn't know that.

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