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    An Appeal To All Michigan Pagans

    You may have heard that our governor, Rick Snyder, has proposed cutting public school funding for grades k-12. It is of the utmost importance that you contact Mr. Snyder and your representatives in Lansing expressing your sentiments on this proposal. At this time, I feel it is imperative that we do everything in our power to provide the best public education for our students that we can. There has to be other areas in which we can make cuts. This is not one of them. So please, take a few minutes of your time to write to your representatives in Lansing. Below, is an e-mail address to help you contact your representatives.

    Governor Rick Snyder
    Rick.Snyder@michigan.gov

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    http://www.senate.michigan.gov/fysenator/fysenator.htm
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    Re: An Appeal To All Michigan Pagans

    WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! omg.............. i wish i lived in MI so i could give him a piece of my mind....
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    Re: An Appeal To All Michigan Pagans

    I'm not in Michigan so my opinion is largely a moot point but how much was spent last year on Michigan public education and what does he intend to drop it to? Past that, what specific items are being defunded? If he's cutting essential services, then great, slam the moron but check what exactly he intends to cut and why first.

    Every dollar in education is one not going to another service or not in your pocket to help pay for food. I'm not willing to say education is untouchable when holding that promise may cost me usable roads, reliable emergency services, disaster relief or simpler things like the ability to put gas in my car so I can get to work. Demonstrate how every dollar he intends to cut is necessary.
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    Re: An Appeal To All Michigan Pagans

    The governor of Michigan want's to take $900 million dollars from public schools K-12 and transfer these funds to our community collages and universities here. They are already well funded money pits who have vast amounts of cash in reserve. This amounts to to a $4.3 million dollar loss for my school district alone. We are a small school district of only three elementary schools, one middle school, and one high school. We stand to lose our middle school and or having to eliminate all athletics,all non-special education transportation,all school counselors, all principals and front office staff, and all building supplies and text book purchases.
    In 1994 the taxpayers voted on Proposal A, a state funding model for schools. With this proposal,taxpayers and schools were promised adequate funding by the state in exchange for limiting the ability to levy local school operating millage's. This has not worked out as the state keeps cutting the promised funding for our schools.
    I hope this has answered some of your questions. I don't see how shorting our grade school kids of a well rounded education will help prepare the for collage.
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    Thanks you for stating your concern for our situation Yukanaoe, I wish you could help also. I am sincerely hoping that the other people who took the time to read this post also took the time to get involved if they live here.
    MaskedOne This governor intends to give major tax breaks to big business (He is a wealthy businessman himself) and at the same time place a heaver tax burden on our senior citizens in this state. I understand the need to get the states finances in order and under control. I myself would not mind paying a higher tax rate if the politicians would just keep their hands off it and use it for what it is intended.
    My kids are finished with our public school system (thank the powers that be) but I'm very concerned for the kids that are not.
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    Like I said before, if you are certain that what he's cutting is vital then by all means oppose him. My only concern is that 'Education' does not become a sacrosanct portion of the budget that can be raised but never under any circumstances lowered. You seem to know and oppose specific consequences of this plan and that is sufficient to quell any argument that I'd put forward at this time.
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    Re: An Appeal To All Michigan Pagans

    Thanks MaskOne. Unfortunately the trend here in Michigan over the last ten years or so has been to cut the funding for our schools. I can not speak for other school districts but ours has been doing an exaltation job of not wasting money. My wife and I are very involved with the school district and keep up with were the money is spent. But you can only do so much with what you have and their comes a time when it's just not enough to make it work well.
    I feel that a good quality education is priceless for all of our kids. That even people without children need be concerned about undermining our education system as most well educated people become an asset to our society as apposed to a burden.
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    Re: An Appeal To All Michigan Pagans

    Keep your eyes on what happens in Michigan next year - if the government gets away with it, it will be happening all across the US.

    Right now, it looks like there will be schools closing their doors, and free education for a lot of people - particularly in low income areas - will be a thing of the past. What schools do try to make a go of it are looking at class sizes of 45 -50 students.

    Start saving your money, if you have, or intend to have, kids.

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    Re: An Appeal To All Michigan Pagans

    Quote Originally Posted by B. de Corbin View Post
    What schools do try to make a go of it are looking at class sizes of 45 -50 students.
    I haven't looked into it, because its been crazy busy here, but the hubby mentioned that this is what Norfolk is having to do, since they are closing schools due to lack of funding...
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    Re: An Appeal To All Michigan Pagans

    Look at what is about to happen in the city of Detroit. Their getting ready to shut down a bunch of schools and lay off many teachers. They are getting ready also to close most of the city's public libraries. Yet at this time the politicians in Lansing want to spend hundreds of millions of dollars on a second bridge from Detroit to Windsor.
    Big business is taking over politics and the only thing the politicians want to do is "Privatize" all our services.
    Soon are state will be run by the Walmart corporation.

    Corbin I was hoping you'd jump in on this topic.
    Thanks!
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