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    Re: Yogurt Making

    [quote author=B. de Corbin link=topic=319.msg7119#msg7119 date=1288141325]
    Powdered meilk, eh? I'll have to try that - I make my yogurt by setting the mix (just milk with a bit of yogurt added) on top of the bun warmer on the wood stove. Making yogurt is just soooo easy, everybody ought to try it!

    When I make yogurt cheese, I actually drink the whey. I don't know why, but I have a thing for sour tastes. I figure that if it was good enough for Polyphemus, it's good enough for me!
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    I've read you can make bread with it...and that there is some sort of gatoradey kind of drink you can make from it
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    Curd cheese, homemade butter and buttermilk

    Nothing like a simple bit of homemaking dairy products to keep me busy!

    Butter is the easiest thing in the world to make. Take one carton whipping or extra thick cream, pour into a screw-top jar that is at least double the volume of the amount of cream. Screw tightly shut. Put on some energetic music and bounce about, shaking, rolling and agitating the jar. Over time the contents will whip up, stiffen, coagulate, congeal and as if by magic will suddenly become a lump of butter floating in buttermilk. This can take anything from 20min to an hour, depending on the temp of the cream, so it is a great workout! Pour through a seive or a jelly bag if you have one, reserving the buttermilk for breadmaking. Gently knead the butter in your hands or with wooden spatulas to squeeze out any leftover buttermilk, rinse under a cold tap and then (optional) add up to 1/4 tsp salt. Done.

    Curd cheese is also easy, but sadly the whey leftover is no good for baking. Take a carton od the same cream, as above, or whole fat goats milk (if you can get it from the milkman do so, as supermarket cream is often pasteurised). Gently heat the cream in a pan until it is at a rolling preboil. Add vinegar (any type), one capful at a time, pausing for a moment between each capful, until the contents of the pan will suddenly separate. For a smooth, ricotta-like curd cheese, stir the cheese to break up contents. If you want something more like mozarella, do not stir. Remove immediately from the heat and strain through a jelly bag until all whey is passed through. Take curds out of the bag, add a tiny amount of salt (optional) to taste. Beaten, it goes lovely with a fruit chutney on crackers. Unbeaten, it is a perfect home made pizza topping.

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    Re: Curd cheese, homemade butter and buttermilk

    I've simplified making yogurt to a gallon of whole milk (just milk from the grocery store), a single serving size of plain yogurt...put it in the crockpot on warm, put the top on and check on it every couple hours.
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    Re: Curd cheese, homemade butter and buttermilk

    Ooh, that sounds far too easy to work! I have to try it! ;D

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    Re: Yogurt Making

    This place, http://www.culturesforhealth.com/sta...t-starter.html has cultures galore. Great store, pretty good prices, and if you keep your yogurt going, never have to buy starter again. Sort of like a sour dough or a vinegar once you get the starter cultured correctly it'll go for hundreds (really) of years.

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    Re: Yogurt Making

    Quote Originally Posted by LadyGarnetRose View Post
    if you keep your yogurt going, never have to buy starter again.
    ...that, I think, is usually the problem, lol (and why in our case, its easier to go to the grocery store and get one of those single serve greek yogurts to start from when we let it go).
    “You have never answered but you did not need to. If I stand at the ocean I can hear you with your thousand voices. Sometimes you shout, hilarious laughter that taunts all questions. Other nights you are silent as death, a mirror in which the stars show themselves. Then I think you want to tell me something, but you never do. Of course I know I have written letters to no-one. But what if I find a trident tomorrow?" ~~Letters to Poseidon, Cees Nooteboom

    “We still carry this primal relationship to the Earth within our consciousness, even if we have long forgotten it. It is a primal recognition of the wonder, beauty, and divine nature of the Earth. It is a felt reverence for all that exists. Once we bring this foundational quality into our consciousness, we will be able to respond to our present man-made crisis from a place of balance, in which our actions will be grounded in an attitude of respect for all of life. This is the nature of real sustainability.”
    ~~Llewellyn Vaughan-Lee

    "We are the offspring of history, and must establish our own paths in this most diverse and interesting of conceivable universes--one indifferent to our suffering, and therefore offering us maximal freedom to thrive, or to fail, in our own chosen way."
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    Re: Yogurt Making

    Very interesting. I never thought about making yogurt. Can it be frozen?
    Lately I've been buying Chobani brand Greek yogurt, which I like much better than other kinds. I like to take 1 part softened cream cheese, 3 parts plain Chobani, a few drops vanilla extract, stir with a spoon, add a handful of fresh berries and Voila! Breakfast or dessert. Most people would probably add sugar but I like the tartness.

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    FERMENTATION!! Yeah!

    I made sauerkraut. Its fucking delish. OMG. So. much. better. than. a. can.

    I'm eating it with tomatoes "marinated" in sweet Italian dressing.

    I messed around with the recipe--put pickled garlic and peppergrass in it. Mouthgasm.

    I have a hot-sweet-sour-salty batch with red cabbage going right now--it has apples, dried cranberries, and cayenne in it.
    “You have never answered but you did not need to. If I stand at the ocean I can hear you with your thousand voices. Sometimes you shout, hilarious laughter that taunts all questions. Other nights you are silent as death, a mirror in which the stars show themselves. Then I think you want to tell me something, but you never do. Of course I know I have written letters to no-one. But what if I find a trident tomorrow?" ~~Letters to Poseidon, Cees Nooteboom

    “We still carry this primal relationship to the Earth within our consciousness, even if we have long forgotten it. It is a primal recognition of the wonder, beauty, and divine nature of the Earth. It is a felt reverence for all that exists. Once we bring this foundational quality into our consciousness, we will be able to respond to our present man-made crisis from a place of balance, in which our actions will be grounded in an attitude of respect for all of life. This is the nature of real sustainability.”
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    "We are the offspring of history, and must establish our own paths in this most diverse and interesting of conceivable universes--one indifferent to our suffering, and therefore offering us maximal freedom to thrive, or to fail, in our own chosen way."
    ~~Stephen Jay Gould, Wonderful Life: The Burgess Shale and the Nature of History

    "Humans are not rational creatures. Now, logic and rationality are very helpful tools, but there’s also a place for embracing our subjectivity and thinking symbolically. Sometimes what our so-called higher thinking can’t or won’t see, our older, more primitive intuition will." John Beckett

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    Re: What Are You Thinking About?

    Quote Originally Posted by thalassa View Post
    I made sauerkraut. Its fucking delish. OMG. So. much. better. than. a. can.

    I'm eating it with tomatoes "marinated" in sweet Italian dressing.

    I messed around with the recipe--put pickled garlic and peppergrass in it. Mouthgasm.

    I have a hot-sweet-sour-salty batch with red cabbage going right now--it has apples, dried cranberries, and cayenne in it.
    Homemade sauerkraut is De Bomb!

    Have you fermented pickles too?

    I add hot peppers to make them sinfully delish.
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    Re: What Are You Thinking About?

    Quote Originally Posted by B. de Corbin View Post
    Homemade sauerkraut is De Bomb!

    Have you fermented pickles too?

    I add hot peppers to make them sinfully delish.
    I've only made fridge pickles....I've not tried fermented pickles yet.
    “You have never answered but you did not need to. If I stand at the ocean I can hear you with your thousand voices. Sometimes you shout, hilarious laughter that taunts all questions. Other nights you are silent as death, a mirror in which the stars show themselves. Then I think you want to tell me something, but you never do. Of course I know I have written letters to no-one. But what if I find a trident tomorrow?" ~~Letters to Poseidon, Cees Nooteboom

    “We still carry this primal relationship to the Earth within our consciousness, even if we have long forgotten it. It is a primal recognition of the wonder, beauty, and divine nature of the Earth. It is a felt reverence for all that exists. Once we bring this foundational quality into our consciousness, we will be able to respond to our present man-made crisis from a place of balance, in which our actions will be grounded in an attitude of respect for all of life. This is the nature of real sustainability.”
    ~~Llewellyn Vaughan-Lee

    "We are the offspring of history, and must establish our own paths in this most diverse and interesting of conceivable universes--one indifferent to our suffering, and therefore offering us maximal freedom to thrive, or to fail, in our own chosen way."
    ~~Stephen Jay Gould, Wonderful Life: The Burgess Shale and the Nature of History

    "Humans are not rational creatures. Now, logic and rationality are very helpful tools, but there’s also a place for embracing our subjectivity and thinking symbolically. Sometimes what our so-called higher thinking can’t or won’t see, our older, more primitive intuition will." John Beckett

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