View Poll Results: Where do you think divination answers come from?

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  • primarily from without (deities/the cosmos/spirits/etc)

    7 9.09%
  • primarily from within (subconscious)

    17 22.08%
  • half and half

    51 66.23%
  • its BS all around

    2 2.60%
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Thread: Divination POV's

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    Re: Divination POV's

    [quote author=thalassa link=topic=460.msg6308#msg6308 date=1287922555]
    oh! I'm sorry about that!
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    It's okay, I should have gotten that without an explanation. I was just making it too complicating in my mind ("is this some sort of Jung-type of shared subconscious or what.." ).

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    Re: Divination POV's

    I mainly use runes; I never fully explored Tarot enough to be comfortable with it. Runes came far more naturally to me.

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    Re: Divination POV's

    I think I've *tried* just about everything. But, considering that I think that divination comes almost exclusively from within, with some room for cosmic synchronicity, I've found quite a few forms of divination to be superfluous...or that they don't speak to me enough to be worth the time and effort to be fluent in their use.

    While I have used runes, I've never been overly interested in them enough to do more than a cursory study...I painfully waded my way thru a couple of books by Edred Thorsson (one our roomies was Heathen...we had community bookshelves), and then put them down as not useful enough FOR ME (before someone gets mad) to devote that kind of time and effort to. I prefer tarot cards...but not the Rider Waite style deck. I have a couple of different random decks that appeal to me for different reasons, though I only *use* one of them (and not all that often).

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    Re: Divination POV's

    I picked "subconscious" - IMHO, whatever technique one uses acts as a sort of hook for your mind to hang things on. That's why I think some people have a distinct preference for one method over another.

    I like the I Ching. Using it involves a little ritual that puts me in the right frame of mind, and it pretty much always provides me with something I can use. I like tarot cards, and have a couple of decks, but I don't use them for their intended purpose. I just like to look at the pictures.
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    I picked half and half, because sometimes we need a little guidance to get the the right solution
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    Re: Divination POV's

    When I'm pessimistic I feel it all comes from within.

    But usually, I feel and believe that every turn of the card and every fall of the dice and every thought and every meaningful event is tied to kamma (from Buddhism) / Tao (Taoism) / Synchronicity (Carl Jung). kamma/tao/synchronicity is not exactly causal nor is it non-causal. It is not fate in a predetermined sense yet transcends the restrictions of time and normal action-reaction. It is not strictly internal or external, but both.

    So, I could not answer your poll, because you did not include my answer!

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    Re: Divination POV's

    From within, for me.....however, some experiences I've had with Ouija, I do question if that is really the case......and if not, then my choice would have been "I don't friggin' know.".
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    I'm not really sure. Perhaps 50/50. Just wondering how much personal interpretation is involved in Divination. Is it gut feeling and can two people get very different readings from the same cards/runes

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    Re: Divination POV's

    I also feel it's 50/50. For me it's part of the idea that when one is connected to the Divine/God/Etc. in addition to your subconscious. I don't know if that makes it clear as mud or what. Maybe I should go to bed lol.
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    Re: Divination POV's

    I think it doesn't do anything. But calling it BS is just impolite, so I didn't vote!
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