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    Re: To Spell or Not to Spell

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    I never thought about that before. If we offer it up, I bet we could get different energies in return to make our lives even better!
    Or a deity or spiritual entity could use all that rage to smite someone mightily. I gave that God some smite. Gods love smiting.
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    Re: To Spell or Not to Spell

    I think when it comes to magic, I use it when I need to, I guess it would be a case by case basis. I may use it for something simple, or I may use it for something big, I don't think one should limit themselves, nor do I think one should resort to it as a solution to every problem.

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    Re: To Spell or Not to Spell

    I would say don't use Magic for every little thing but do use it for all the big stuff. Need a new job, looking for a new house... any stuff like that where the results really matter then add a little magic and obviously you also need to deal with the mundane side of things too (you know like actually apply for some jobs or whatever). You shouldn't cast spells because there is a dress you want and you "need" it to be on sale so you can afford it. Well maybe if it's your wedding dress but you know keep it real.

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    Re: To Spell or Not to Spell

    Magic is reality. I use portions of reality/magic every day. Craftwork in the sense of recognizable spells (err if you can read my mind, I'm not big on ritual), I use when it suits me and don't when it doesn't. I normally don't do so while enraged, an exception to this rule has been made recently but I stand by the original decision several days after the fact so I'm not overly worried by it. Vengeance, shrug, I don't use craft for lesser vengeance. I'm not willing at this moment to predict my immediate response if you inflict grevious harm on specific people in my life. That said, most of them are warded to a fare thee well and linked to my personal defenses so there's a not insignificant chance that becoming an intolerable threat to those under my watch and ward will get you redirected directly into me and I have no interest in abdicating my right to self-defense. It's not a perfect system but it's the best I've got right now.
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    Re: To Spell or Not to Spell

    My upstairs neighbor said an interesting thing the other day...

    "Words are a magic wand, casting pieces of yourself out into the universe. Be careful what you say. the chances are good that they will come back to you."

    The longer I go along, I sort of start thinking along the lines of Masked. Magic isn't a power you tap into, or some special thing you do...magic is everything you do because its it the underlying fabric of Divinity that the Universe is based upon.

    ..every little thing you do is magic...and the best magic is that which you do with a clear intention and purpose...

    But every little thing you do is not necessairly a spell. IMO. a spell is just a ritualized and intentional piece of magic...brushing your teeth with intent can be a spell just as much as mucking around with herbs and such. AFAIC, the problem with "to spell or not to spell" is what comes afterwards...


    If you just sit on your arse and wait for shit to happen, I think you are in for a rude awakening. Ben Franklin once said "god helps those who help themselves"...so does everything else.
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    Re: To Spell or Not to Spell

    I would agree that we all do Magic all the time by accident. Spells are just doing it on purpose.

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    Re: To Spell or Not to Spell

    Quote Originally Posted by thalassa View Post
    My upstairs neighbor said an interesting thing the other day...

    "Words are a magic wand, casting pieces of yourself out into the universe. Be careful what you say. the chances are good that they will come back to you."

    The longer I go along, I sort of start thinking along the lines of Masked. Magic isn't a power you tap into, or some special thing you do...magic is everything you do because its it the underlying fabric of Divinity that the Universe is based upon.

    ..every little thing you do is magic...and the best magic is that which you do with a clear intention and purpose...

    But every little thing you do is not necessairly a spell. IMO. a spell is just a ritualized and intentional piece of magic...brushing your teeth with intent can be a spell just as much as mucking around with herbs and such. AFAIC, the problem with "to spell or not to spell" is what comes afterwards...


    If you just sit on your arse and wait for shit to happen, I think you are in for a rude awakening. Ben Franklin once said "god helps those who help themselves"...so does everything else.
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    Re: To Spell or Not to Spell

    Quote Originally Posted by thalassa View Post
    My upstairs neighbor said an interesting thing the other day...

    "Words are a magic wand, casting pieces of yourself out into the universe. Be careful what you say. the chances are good that they will come back to you."

    The longer I go along, I sort of start thinking along the lines of Masked. Magic isn't a power you tap into, or some special thing you do...magic is everything you do because its it the underlying fabric of Divinity that the Universe is based upon.

    ..every little thing you do is magic...and the best magic is that which you do with a clear intention and purpose...

    But every little thing you do is not necessairly a spell. IMO. a spell is just a ritualized and intentional piece of magic...brushing your teeth with intent can be a spell just as much as mucking around with herbs and such. AFAIC, the problem with "to spell or not to spell" is what comes afterwards...


    If you just sit on your arse and wait for shit to happen, I think you are in for a rude awakening. Ben Franklin once said "god helps those who help themselves"...so does everything else.
    I agree. Tooth brushing is an amusing example. What sort of intention might one put into brushing their teeth? A cleansing of some sort, I would guess, or perhaps healing of dental problems.
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    Re: To Spell or Not to Spell

    Quote Originally Posted by thalassa View Post
    My upstairs neighbor said an interesting thing the other day...

    "Words are a magic wand, casting pieces of yourself out into the universe. Be careful what you say. the chances are good that they will come back to you."

    The longer I go along, I sort of start thinking along the lines of Masked. Magic isn't a power you tap into, or some special thing you do...magic is everything you do because its it the underlying fabric of Divinity that the Universe is based upon.

    ..every little thing you do is magic...and the best magic is that which you do with a clear intention and purpose...

    But every little thing you do is not necessairly a spell. IMO. a spell is just a ritualized and intentional piece of magic...brushing your teeth with intent can be a spell just as much as mucking around with herbs and such. AFAIC, the problem with "to spell or not to spell" is what comes afterwards...


    If you just sit on your arse and wait for shit to happen, I think you are in for a rude awakening. Ben Franklin once said "god helps those who help themselves"...so does everything else.
    I have to keep all of this in mind tomorrow morning while brushing my teeth, and think about tooth cleaning instead of how much I hate getting up in the morning. Stuff like that could really probably help change a basic everyday outlook on life....

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    Re: To Spell or Not to Spell

    Quote Originally Posted by Maria de Luna View Post
    I have to keep all of this in mind tomorrow morning while brushing my teeth, and think about tooth cleaning instead of how much I hate getting up in the morning. Stuff like that could really probably help change a basic everyday outlook on life....
    or something like speaking with honesty or reverence. etc...or for me, cleaning up the sailor language!
    “You have never answered but you did not need to. If I stand at the ocean I can hear you with your thousand voices. Sometimes you shout, hilarious laughter that taunts all questions. Other nights you are silent as death, a mirror in which the stars show themselves. Then I think you want to tell me something, but you never do. Of course I know I have written letters to no-one. But what if I find a trident tomorrow?" ~~Letters to Poseidon, Cees Nooteboom

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