well the supreme court did something right.

[Maria de Luna]

Supreme court ruling on DOMA.
At least theres 1 thing they can do right.

[Malflick]

Re: well the supreme court did something right.

Thank. God. Yes.

Yesterday they made my super unhappy.

Today they make me happy.

Yay.

This is such good news.

[SPhoenix]

Re: well the supreme court did something right.

It's a big step the right direction. I get tired of arguing that marriage isn't only about saying, "oh look, this is my spouse". It comes with substantial rights and privileges from a legal perspective. Visiting your loved one in hospital. Making medical choices for your disabled spouse. The right to adopt children together. The right to take each others' name. There are many more.

It isn't about "stealing the word marriage", it's about legal rights (and obligations!).

Most importantly of all, regardless of the issue, the Fed should not be interfering in State decisions beyond barring them from breaching Constitutional Rights. Allowing gay marriage does not breach Constitutional Rights, while preventing them, does.

I am pleasantly surprised by this and rather heartened.

[Maria de Luna]

Re: well the supreme court did something right.

It's a big step the right direction. I get tired of arguing that marriage isn't only about saying, "oh look, this is my spouse". It comes with substantial rights and privileges from a legal perspective. Visiting your loved one in hospital. Making medical choices for your disabled spouse. The right to adopt children together. The right to take each others' name. There are many more.

It isn't about "stealing the word marriage", it's about legal rights (and obligations!).

Most importantly of all, regardless of the issue, the Fed should not be interfering in State decisions beyond barring them from breaching Constitutional Rights. Allowing gay marriage does not breach Constitutional Rights, while preventing them, does.

I am pleasantly surprised by this and rather heartened.

Damn Skippy!

[DanieMarie]

Re: well the supreme court did something right.

Yayyyyy good job, guys!

[thalassa]

Re: well the supreme court did something right.

To paraphrase MLK, who paraphrased Theodore Parker: The arc of the Universe is long, but it bends towards justice...

Look at the facts of the world. You see a continual and progressive triumph of the right. I do not pretend to understand the moral universe, the arc is a long one, my eye reaches but little ways. I cannot calculate the curve and complete the figure by the experience of sight; I can divine it by conscience. But from what I see I am sure it bends towards justice.

(the original, from an 1857 essay by Theodore Parker, Unitarian minister, Transcendentalist, and abolitionist)

[Unlogisch]

Re: well the supreme court did something right.

As a member of the LGBT community, I am extremely happy about the DOMA and Prop. 8 rulings of this morning. However I am extremely worried that all of the good news will overshadow the incredibly shameful decision to strike down the VRA.

[Luce]

Re: well the supreme court did something right.

As a member of the LGBT community, I am extremely happy about the DOMA and Prop. 8 rulings of this morning. However I am extremely worried that all of the good news will overshadow the incredibly shameful decision to strike down the VRA.

And that's the long and the short of it. It was a trade off. At which point in our history constitutionality became a trade off is a mystery to me.

[Dakini Rose]

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And that's the long and the short of it. It was a trade off. At which point in our history constitutionality became a trade off is a mystery to me.

Yeah, it was a distraction from ALL THE OTHER HORRIBLE STUFF THEY'VE BEEN RULING.

And gay people still can't get married in most states, so no skin off of SCOTUS.

[thalassa]

Re: well the supreme court did something right.

And that's the long and the short of it. It was a trade off. At which point in our history constitutionality became a trade off is a mystery to me.

Its always been that way. I mean really, look at Dred Scott and Plessy vs Ferguson. Over the long term, we get more liberal and more fair. In the short term though, its one step forward, two steps back, one giant leap forward, one step back, two steps forward, one punt to the left, another shift to the right, one step forward, ad nauseum.


...just keep your eye on that arc of the universe....its curve is slow, but its still bending towards justice (as long as we all keep sittin on that justice end of business!!)

[Diogenes]

Re: well the supreme court did something right.

As though I need someone's permission to give my partner a Rusty Venture. A puny victory in the face of pervasive oppression.

[B. de Corbin]

Re: well the supreme court did something right.

Its always been that way. I mean really, look at Dred Scott and Plessy vs Ferguson. Over the long term, we get more liberal and more fair. In the short term though, its one step forward, two steps back, one giant leap forward, one step back, two steps forward, one punt to the left, another shift to the right, one step forward, ad nauseum.


...just keep your eye on that arc of the universe....its curve is slow, but its still bending towards justice (as long as we all keep sittin on that justice end of business!!)

We keep muddling toward a better future. I wish people would be more aware of the historical process of moving toward increasing freedom. I've lived long enough to see the strides we have made in the last 50 years, and I can not help but be optimist about the future based on the changes which have taken place in the past.

[thalassa]

Re: well the supreme court did something right.

As though I need someone's permission to give my partner a Rusty Venture. A puny victory in the face of pervasive oppression.

You have no idea what pervasive oppression is.

[SPhoenix]

Re: well the supreme court did something right.

As though I need someone's permission to give my partner a Rusty Venture. A puny victory in the face of pervasive oppression.

A victory is a victory. A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step. As long as our steps are going the right direction, there's hope for the finish line.

[anunitu]

Re: well the supreme court did something right.

One thing needs to be understood,there is much personal ideology within the Court. It is supposed to be a bastion of unbiased decisions,but the Judges are as human as the rest of us. Even with the notion that their decisions should be strictly based on Law and its interpretation,still their personal views seep in in their decisions.