Malevolent Spirit/ Ghost Haunting

[LadyDorothy]

My new college is REALLY haunted (which I adore), but my friend's dorm room is haunted by this girl...

She's 12 or 13, and she has become a righteous pain in everyone's arse.

She knocks stuff over, makes loud noises, keeps blowing on the back of people's necks, locking us in, she keeps ripping the covers off, laying down next to my friends, and shes recently taken to hiding items (such as my friend's engagements ring and right boot.)

A friend of mine did a cleansing of the room, hoping that will help, but nothing has happened.

Any ideas of stuff I could do to help?

[monsno_leedra]

I'd suggest you try to find out who she is. If she has a long history with the college you probably will not be able to do anything except try to reach an agreement with. If she was a violent death or a homesick created spirit then the odds are she is not going to settle easily. At worse you may find that she is tide to an item at the college and possibly in or near the room itself in which case until that item is found and removed nothing you do will change anything.

[Sean R. R.]

A ghost is simply the spirit of someone who has remained on earth for whatever reason, usually sort of "attached" to a place where significant events of their life's had place. Now this isn't a ghost, but a poltergeist, which in my definition is just a really noisy ghost.

Your best bet is to either release it of it's suffering by giving it the thing it wants...
Or just plainly destroy/banish the ghost.

[Kahlenda]

Like Monsno said, ask her to leave or just to stop, and if not try to find out what you can about her. if she is, attached to an object or even the room itself, i have a banishment spell for a similiar situation taht i helped my friend with once i could always send you that.

another thing id say is, its uni right? soisnt that spirit just another part of the universities character, like a specific building, or story, or photo? i know a mischivious spirit can be a pain and normally id say just get rid, but to be a bit of a weirdo, are you want to get rid of a piece of the uni's character and spirit haha

[monsno_leedra]

A ghost is simply the spirit of someone who has remained on earth for whatever reason, usually sort of "attached" to a place where significant events of their life's had place. Now this isn't a ghost, but a poltergeist, which in my definition is just a really noisy ghost.

Your best bet is to either release it of it's suffering by giving it the thing it wants...
Or just plainly destroy/banish the ghost.

I'd say try that on Resurrection Mary or the Bell Cave Witch. A lot of people talk about banishing or destroying ghost but I find that seldom works unless the ghost was only an impression that is time stamped and not physical self aware and active. Most often it seems the only way to remove them is to remove the object to which they are connected or destroy the building to which they are attached.

I do agree if it's as active as the OP is suggesting it's more likely to be a poltergeist or an entity that tries to pass itself off as a young girl. I will say though that an attempt to do a cleansing can also back fire and create a really hostile spirit.

I am curious as to how the OP determined the presence is that of a 12 to 13 year old girl? The age almost seems to suggest poltergeist as that is one of the prime ages and gender equations for activities.

[Corvus]

Most often it seems the only way to remove them is to remove the object to which they are connected or destroy the building to which they are attached.

Even that doesn't always work.
I would probably try protection spells and charms first. If that is unsuccessful try to talk to the thing. If that doesn't work try a banishing.

[monsno_leedra]

Even that doesn't always work.
I would probably try protection spells and charms first. If that is unsuccessful try to talk to the thing. If that doesn't work try a banishing.

OH I agree with that. The ones I think cause the most problems are the revengeful spirits such as the Estonian Revenant. They seek revenge or justice with such a hatred that nothing seems to appease them unless its getting justice or revenge upon whomever or whatever caused them their deaths. Luckily what the OP is saying doesn't sound anything like a vengeful or vengeance seeking spirit. Doesn't really sound like any of the conditions that might be recognized as the restless dead.

[thalassa]

Did you try asking her to chill? Heck, get the kid some entertainment. There's this episode of Star Trek--DS9 where they encounter a computer-based sentient life form that causes all sorts of trouble mucking about in the computer system, until Chief comes up with the idea of making it its own little computer wonderland and luring it in there and locking the door. The little guy is completely happy because it has everything it could possibly want, but contained enough that its entertained. Pretty much the super high-tech future version of a spirit trap. A spirit trap used to be a box with a small hole in it, where the interior was mirrored (sometimes it had a maze in it, or something that would rattle), that would act a entertainment and containment for troublesome spirits (I actually recommend making it something where the spirit is encouraged to use it, but not forced to). Basically, ask her what she wants, and make her a space to hang out and have those things within reason...tell her you don't mind playing from time to time, but you also have work to do.


Also though...don't rule out the mundane...its college. People stealing shit is more likely than not. I doubt that its changed that much since I was in college 15 years ago.

[Corvus]

OH I agree with that. The ones I think cause the most problems are the revengeful spirits such as the Estonian Revenant. They seek revenge or justice with such a hatred that nothing seems to appease them unless its getting justice or revenge upon whomever or whatever caused them their deaths. Luckily what the OP is saying doesn't sound anything like a vengeful or vengeance seeking spirit. Doesn't really sound like any of the conditions that might be recognized as the restless dead.

There's billions of spirits that just mill around the world. Most are weak or lost or just gone in terms of mentality and can't even gather the energy to manifest. This doesn't sound anything like that. However I agree the manifestations are random enough that it's not likely to be unjust dead. My opinion is that it's just a ghostie that happens to like the college and has decided that it belongs to him/her/it. Maybe it went to the school, maybe it found the area and just likes it and decided to stay. Maybe it's trying to defend it's territory, maybe it just enjoys messing with them. Whatever the case it's clearly intelligent and can probably be reasoned with. If it can't be reasoned with then you can probably bind it out or outright oust it if you cared enough. Imo the progression for action is as follows : Simple personal protections>> Reasoning with it>> threatening>> banishing

Thal brings up a nice point. If the spirit is this intelligent the thing could just be bored. I would put a spirit trap somewhere between reasoning and threatening. Depending on the spirit and trap in question you can get different results. The point of most traps are to, well, trap spirits. They go inside and either are mesmerized by something (a mirrored surface or chimes or something) or get confused and stuck (by weird angles or doors or something). Spirits in general have a weird sense of time so this can occupy them for really long periods. Weaker minded spirits degrade in environments like that. Stronger and smarter spirits like yours have different results depending on personality. A true spirit trap is made where the spirit cannot get out and is either kept there indefinitely or until it can be cleansed/banished/released later. Think of it like a cage trap. Once you have your animal in a cage it's much easier to do what you want with it, be that execute it, tame it or release it elsewhere. Thal suggests basically making a spirit playroom more than a spirit trap, which is a valid option and probably more humane than the traditional trap. I've never thought of doing that myself (anywhere I go that's haunted either I leave or the spirit leaves before it's really needed) but I don't see why it wouldn't work

[thalassa]

Thal suggests basically making a spirit playroom more than a spirit trap, which is a valid option and probably more humane than the traditional trap. I've never thought of doing that myself (anywhere I go that's haunted either I leave or the spirit leaves before it's really needed) but I don't see why it wouldn't work

Yeah, I like the idea of taking something historical and funky, and making it a bit more benign and fun. I've never been bothered by anything myself. Like...places that give other people the creeps, ghosties that bother other people...I'm like the original ghost-buster, no vacuum attachment necessary. I came up with the idea of the "spirit playroom" (I like that!!) when a friend bitched at me for scaring off her ghost whenever I would visit (and I liked the crafty aspect of it).


<---puts the fun in funky