UK censorship on Esoteric Content?

[Auseklis]

[DanieMarie]

Re: UK censorship on Esoteric Content?

Yikes. I don't support internet filters in general...I think illegal content like child porn needs to be stopped at the source, because some people will always get around the filters and stopping it all together is the only way to prevent it. Legal content like legal pornography and any kind of free speech (whether it's offensive or not) needs to be protected...if people want to shelter the kids, they should learn to use the internet responsibly in their homes.

What bothers me the most about this is its vagueness. Vaguely-worded laws are always trouble. If they do want to block specific kinds of content (which I don't support, but just for argument's sake) they need to outline exactly what that content is.

From the looks of it, Canada's support is limited to a single MP in Winnipeg (hardly an important riding) but since we have a Conservative government, I wouldn't be surprised if they pulled something like this eventually, as it seems to fall in line with their party philosophy. Luckily, that won't be soon as there is a big, competitive election in a year and a half. Also, they may very well lose that election (hopefully).

[Auseklis]

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I agree 100%... I just thought this was an interesting post I found that could impact forums such as this one.

[DanieMarie]

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Yeah for sure!

[Kahlenda]

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Ive already had my argument on this subject, i say let them do it. here's what i posted on the pagan federation page dealing with a petition to stop it.

"Meh i've heard it going around, at the moement im just going to wait and see, at the end of the day if they do block sites to anything other than the mainstream religious sites. then im pretty sure every pagan in the uk will kick off and protest. and to be fair that would be a (in a fashion) better thing for the british pagan community then just getting the sites taken off the filter before hand.

think about it we take them off before hand its quiet no attension drawn end of story.


but we rally and protest for the estoteric sites to be removed afterwards (if they are blocked) then the situation will be in the eye of the public and of the government. and due to the human rights act that our gov chooses to follow and uphold they will have to allow those sites through. and this will create more of a legal precedent for the rights of pagans within the uk. which could/should tumble into other aspects of law and society."

[Auseklis]

Re: UK censorship on Esoteric Content?

Wikileaks and some of their 'sister sites' are a good example of how far the top powers will go to censor the Internet.

[Kahlenda]

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Wikileaks and some of their 'sister sites' are a good example of how far the top powers will go to censor the Internet.

No they are examples of people "leaking" sensitive information to the world before Its safe for it to be public Knowledge. for example how British Troops Stranded in Enemy territory signal friendly forces. that is classed as restricted information we don't want everyone to know how we do it or it would no longer be safe. thats the sort of information that goes onto wikileaks, things the government don't want us to know for a reason. ill admit sometimes the stuff they hold back is wrong to do so but mostly theres a very good reason for it. but there is a difference between censorship and keeping sensetive information out of public knowledge

[anunitu]

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I am not at all surprised by these moves,remember England once banned Rock and roll,there was a movie about that. It smacks of "Control" by fear a tactic also used here in the US. They play to the fears of the ordinary person by "Creating" an evil that does not even exist. It is sad because these "politicians" are supposed to work for the people,not play mind games with the people.

[Monk]

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I for one do not see Kalhlendas vision of protest happening. Pagans will do what we tend to do and that is stay in the shadows. Many of us still shrink back form coming out as Wiccan, Pagan, or any of the many other non-main stream religions we choose to follow.
People everywhere need to wake up to the slow but steady erosion of their rights being imposed by governments around the world. They do this by simply slipping these largely unnoticed incloudsions in seamingly logical laws that they promote as for being for the good all. Whether this is a U.N. resolution or some local home grown ordinance that they have used to slip in all sorts of restrictions on our lifes. There is a lot to be said of the saying "silence equals death" because if we don't speak out against such quite changes they will eventually silence us.
I say speak up by signing the petition and show our dislike for this type of underhandedness as well as restrictions on our ability to stay in contact and thrive as a global community on line.

[Kahlenda]

Re: UK censorship on Esoteric Content?

I for one do not see Kalhlendas vision of protest happening. Pagans will do what we tend to do and that is stay in the shadows. Many of us still shrink back form coming out as Wiccan, Pagan, or any of the many other non-main stream religions we choose to follow.
People everywhere need to wake up to the slow but steady erosion of their rights being imposed by governments around the world. They do this by simply slipping these largely unnoticed incloudsions in seamingly logical laws that they promote as for being for the good all. Whether this is a U.N. resolution or some local home grown ordinance that they have used to slip in all sorts of restrictions on our lifes. There is a lot to be said of the saying "silence equals death" because if we don't speak out against such quite changes they will eventually silence us.
I say speak up by signing the petition and show our dislike for this type of underhandedness as well as restrictions on our ability to stay in contact and thrive as a global community on line.

I think it may be a little bit different in the sates monk i know the yanks are like the super god squad, but i dunno i know myself personally and alot of other UK pagans i have spoke to have all said they would protest if these sites were included in the ban.

[Auseklis]

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Wikileaks and sister sites are not just about 'leaks' they have a number of operations and web sites of varying levels on varying subject matter. Regardless, the government will never un-ban web sites because a few thousand pagans 'said so'. Avoid the problem in the first place and then there is no need for protesting. Freedom of speech isn't about proving something.

[Quetzal]

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Not just pagans Kahl. It's not just religious freedoms that are being attacked here, it's our whole internet freedom. I know tons of non-pagans who are up in arms over this nonsense.

[Saskia12]

[Juniper]

Re: UK censorship on Esoteric Content?

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[Unus Mundus]

Re: UK censorship on Esoteric Content?

I'm not a fan of any form of censorship, yes military tactics probably should not be shared, but I will not stand by idly and allow a government to force feed me their BS through secretive little inclusions into legislation! I may be an American, but this reminds me a lot of the SOPA/PIPA bills that were up in the American legislation a few years back, they are back-handed attempts at limiting freedoms for the "sake of the children!"