Runes

[blue_coyote]

Re: Runes

I need to know, as completely as possible, the meanings of the runes. How they can be placed together. What they will mean when placed together. How an ordering is able to change the mean and/or energy of the runes and of the piece they are being engraved upon.

[Rick]

Re: Runes

re: Sweyn Plowright's book, Rune Primer, a free pdf version is available if you sign up for the Runenet email list. It's in the files section:

http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/RuneNet-l

[Rae'ya]

Re: Runes

I need to know, as completely as possible, the meanings of the runes. How they can be placed together. What they will mean when placed together. How an ordering is able to change the mean and/or energy of the runes and of the piece they are being engraved upon.

It takes years of study and work with the runes to get to this point...

re: Sweyn Plowright's book, Rune Primer, a free pdf version is available if you sign up for the Runenet email list. It's in the files section:

http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/RuneNet-l

... and this would be a good place to start.

[blue_coyote]

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That link doesn't like me and I have apparently forgotten how to work the internet after being offline a few years. So, I went to amazon and ordered "Rune Primer." It should be arriving by Monday.

[Rick]

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http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/RuneNet-l/conversations/messages

Try that one... yahoo has re-done their email groups, and there are a lotta bugs...

[Chris]

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don't know if it's on the list

tony willis - the runic workbook

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Runic-Workbook-Understanding-Aquarian-Divination/dp/0850304695/ref=la_B001KII0OO_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1389776493&sr=1-1

[Heka]

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I'm an Elder Futhark kinda gal.

I came across the Paxson book for the first time the other day in Dymocks... Was tempted. I think I'll try and go back to get it before I leave the city - it's not one I've read (and it's easily available for once!)

BC: I like this website, and used it a lot when I was a teenager. I think it's a nice start http://www.sunnyway.com/runes But I also agree with others that (once you look at some stuff) make a decision about what direction you want to head in, then come back and ask again. There's also some more stuff in the Heathen board.

And there's no way to do this quickly, and completely. Be prepared for time

[Chris]

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a question, akin and relevent

i gave my set away and feel like creating again - as soon as I can stand and cut at the vice (maybe 2 months time)

your runes...what have you made them from...what kind of wood are they..or bone or antler etcetc..

what have you found works well for you??

[Willow]

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a question, akin and relevent

i gave my set away and feel like creating again - as soon as I can stand and cut at the vice (maybe 2 months time)

your runes...what have you made them from...what kind of wood are they..or bone or antler etcetc..

what have you found works well for you??

My current set is actually of obsidian (I know, bad "untraditional" me). But I've thought about making my own wooden set for a long while and I'm settled on pine as my medium-of-choice. Mostly because that's the tree I have a very strong affinity with. My stone set works well though. If you ever make a set, you should post photos of your work! I love handicrafts.

[Chris]

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no problems with obsidian - natural glass...any chance of a photo or two ??


was going to use some beech because it's nice to work...but then thought yew...a lovely wood yew..polishes gorgeously...however not so easy to get hold of

[Heka]

Re: Runes

a question, akin and relevent

i gave my set away and feel like creating again - as soon as I can stand and cut at the vice (maybe 2 months time)

your runes...what have you made them from...what kind of wood are they..or bone or antler etcetc..

what have you found works well for you??

Mine are hematite. I wanted hematite runes my entire life. I was so happy when I found them. At this stage I have no intention of making wooden ones. Mine work just fine, and they are BEAUTIFUL.

These aren't mine, but this is how mine look, all random shapes, engraved, with gold paint

[Rick]

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no problems with obsidian - natural glass...any chance of a photo or two ??


was going to use some beech because it's nice to work...but then thought yew...a lovely wood yew..polishes gorgeously...however not so easy to get hold of

I thought yew trees were to be found in every old cemetary in England?

[Rae'ya]

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your runes...what have you made them from...what kind of wood are they..or bone or antler etcetc..

what have you found works well for you??

Mine are semi-precious stones (and a few not precious ones lol) that were all individually picked out in consultation with the Runespirits. Each rune has a different stone. I've never worked with a wooden set of runes and I don't believe the runes for divination need to be from fruit bearing trees... I'm not reconstructionst nor even traditionalist. The Runespirits have always worked with me through stone and paper and nothing at all... so that's what I go with.

Traditionally, runes are carved into wood (Tacitus tells us in Germania that the wood of a fruit-bearing tree is used).

(I know you know this, Rick... I just have to say it for the sake of transparency and accuracy...)

Traditionally, the only thing that we absolutely know for sure about runes is that they were carved into stones and metal objects for purposes that didn't include divination. We don't actually know that the 'certain signs' Tacitus describes were runes, as he never explicitly uses those terms. We don't even know for sure that runes were used for divination at all.

The whole 'cut from the branch of a fruit bearing tree' thing comes specifically from Tacitus' writings in Germania... and we can't prove or disprove that he was talking about runes. Many reconstructionists, traditionalists and purists make the calculated assumption the Tacitus was talking about runes and say that this is the only 'correct' way to create a divination set of runes. But that's certainly not my (or Rick's, or many other rune casters') experience.

Agreed. And I have nothing further to add to this that Rick didn't already say.

[Rick]

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(I know you know this, Rick... I just have to say it for the sake of transparency and accuracy...)

Traditionally, the only thing that we absolutely know for sure about runes is that they were carved into stones and metal objects for purposes that didn't include divination. We don't actually know that the 'certain signs' Tacitus describes were runes, as he never explicitly uses those terms. We don't even know for sure that runes were used for divination at all.

The whole 'cut from the branch of a fruit bearing tree' thing comes specifically from Tacitus' writings in Germania... and we can't prove or disprove that he was talking about runes. Many reconstructionists, traditionalists and purists make the calculated assumption the Tacitus was talking about runes and say that this is the only 'correct' way to create a divination set of runes. But that's certainly not my (or Rick's, or many other rune casters') experience.

Absolutely. There are examples of runes used for magic throughout the Sagas, but I can't recall any examples of runes used for divination. I used to do rune readings professionally, and I'm pretty good, if I do say so, but as I've come to realize that runes are, first and foremost, a system if magic (and divination with them is sort of an accidental side effect), I pretty much don't do rune readings anymore. Rune magic, on the other hand, is a regular practice. All that said, if you read runes and get good results, then by all means continue. These observations are meant to stimulate discussion, not sway anyone any particular way.

[Rae'ya]

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Absolutely. There are examples of runes used for magic throughout the Sagas, but I can't recall any examples of runes used for divination. I used to do rune readings professionally, and I'm pretty good, if I do say so, but as I've come to realize that runes are, first and foremost, a system if magic (and divination with them is sort of an accidental side effect), I pretty much don't do rune readings anymore. Rune magic, on the other hand, is a regular practice. All that said, if you read runes and get good results, then by all means continue. These observations are meant to stimulate discussion, not sway anyone any particular way.

Bold mine; and that's absolutely right. I cast runes for divination, and they've always seemed amenable to to that. But my main relationship with them is for rune magick. And in that sense I often don't rist them onto anything at all... galdr on it's own is a powerful magickal tool if you have the skill. I often rist bindrunes into stones for amulets, or on paper for spells, or on my skin for various reasons... but they also form part of my invisible house and property wards, blessings and shields. There's a great deal more to working with the Runespirits than divination.