Re: Agnosticism Discussion
My point is that our understanding of reality, both individually and as a society, is constantly shifting. The truths of one year are the outdated theories of the next. The idea that something can't be potentially true because we don't already know it is absurd to the point of being laughable if you look at the history of our constantly shifting and evolving understanding of reality. But I suspect you're being a tad facetious.
The problem with this is that the idea of God(s) changes radically depending on who you're speaking to, which is why I've tried to avoid turning this into a discussion about whether God actually does or doesn't exist, because honestly I just don't know (although I lean towards, and primarily live my life on the assumption of, God's existence). What I do know is that claim that it is impossible to know anything about the nature of God is oxymoronic, and that our understanding of reality is constantly altering to replace old truths with new ones.
Uhmmm... we DO know those things... there IS proof... does that mean the logic works?
AND, we know these things because we have evidence. Actual, physical data. We have the capacity to take a picture of the sun, to measure its relative position and the position of the other planets. We can predict future location of the planets based on a proposed trajectory. This is why we have a Law of Planetary Potion. In the case of planetary motion, we knew the planets moved, we knew where they went, and we had records of their motion, well before we had an idea of why and how. The same with germ theory. It took over 300 years of observation and experimentation to figure that one out...it required concerete data, about objectively observable phenomena.
Divinity is not a concrete, objectively observable phenomena...god is more like the miasma "theory" or the geocentric universe. Its the idea you have before you have an idea based on actual data.
That doesn't necessairly mean everyone is wrong, but it means that no one can actually know who is right, as the (lack of) data presents itself in the present time. (At least in terms of whether or not god/s exist and their nature and purpose...its plenty possible to test other ideas that religions have...infact, that's how we wound up with a heliocentric solar system after all)
Divinity is not a concrete, objectively observable phenomena...god is more like the miasma "theory" or the geocentric universe. Its the idea you have before you have an idea based on actual data.
That doesn't necessairly mean everyone is wrong, but it means that no one can actually know who is right, as the (lack of) data presents itself in the present time. (At least in terms of whether or not god/s exist and their nature and purpose...its plenty possible to test other ideas that religions have...infact, that's how we wound up with a heliocentric solar system after all)
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