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    Re: Ave Satanas (the Ask a Satanist thread)

    [quote author=spartacandream link=topic=108.msg3529#msg3529 date=1287258894]
    What attracted you to Satanism?
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    Good question. I liked that Satanism doesn't lie about motives. There are no excuses. No passing the buck. And though you strive to be a sort of ultimate being...being human is NOT a sin that needs to be saved. That being a human being who makes mistakes is ok. I liked that my life was put into my own hands. And Satanism gave me the tools to keep it that way. I liked that I didn't need to be saved. That there wasn't something intrinsically wrong with me...from birth. I really liked the no nonsense, no bs attitude. It shoots straight from the hip in harsh unapologetic language...just like me.
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    Re: Ave Satanas (the Ask a Satanist thread)

    So, as I've been asking others on religions I'm not as familiar with:

    Do you have any basic tenets, like rules to follow?

    What are the most important stories/people in the religion?
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    Re: Ave Satanas (the Ask a Satanist thread)

    [quote author=Shahaku link=topic=108.msg3657#msg3657 date=1287283335]
    So, as I've been asking others on religions I'm not as familiar with:

    Do you have any basic tenets, like rules to follow?

    What are the most important stories/people in the religion?
    [/quote]
    There are no 'rules' other than my own. But there are general statements that most Satanists agree with. The basic 101 would be the 9 Satanic Statements and the 11 Rules of the Earth.

    1. Satan represents indulgence instead of abstinence!

    2. Satan represents vital existence instead of spiritual pipe dreams!

    3. Satan represents undefiled wisdom instead of hypocritical self-deceit!

    4. Satan represents kindness to those who deserve it instead of love wasted on ingrates!

    5. Satan represents vengeance instead of turning the other cheek!

    6. Satan represents responsibility to the responsible instead of concern for psychic vampires!

    7. Satan represents man as just another animal, sometimes better, more often worse than those that walk on all-fours, who, because of his “divine spiritual and intellectual development,” has become the most vicious animal of all!

    8. Satan represents all of the so-called sins, as they all lead to physical, mental, or emotional gratification!



    9. Satan has been the best friend the Church has ever had, as He has kept it in business all these years!
    And...

    1. Do not give opinions or advice unless you are asked.

    2. Do not tell your troubles to others unless you are sure they want to hear them.

    3. When in another’s lair, show him respect or else do not go there.

    4. If a guest in your lair annoys you, treat him cruelly and without mercy.

    5. Do not make sexual advances unless you are given the mating signal.

    6. Do not take that which does not belong to you unless it is a burden to the other person and he cries out to be relieved.

    7. Acknowledge the power of magic if you have employed it successfully to obtain your desires. If you deny the power of magic after having called upon it with success, you will lose all you have obtained.

    8. Do not complain about anything to which you need not subject yourself.

    9. Do not harm little children.

    10. Do not kill non-human animals unless you are attacked or for your food.

    11. When walking in open territory, bother no one. If someone bothers you, ask him to stop. If he does not stop, destroy him.
    As for important people and or stories? There are no 'stories of myth' to be told. As for people? Anton LaVey is an important person to us. But then after that? It really depends on who influences you in particular. Poets,philosophers, actors, politicians, environmentalists. Whatever motivates you in your life.
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    Re: Ave Satanas (the Ask a Satanist thread)

    " 5. Do not make sexual advances unless you are given the mating signal."

    *wonders what the mating signal is*
    “You have never answered but you did not need to. If I stand at the ocean I can hear you with your thousand voices. Sometimes you shout, hilarious laughter that taunts all questions. Other nights you are silent as death, a mirror in which the stars show themselves. Then I think you want to tell me something, but you never do. Of course I know I have written letters to no-one. But what if I find a trident tomorrow?" ~~Letters to Poseidon, Cees Nooteboom

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    Re: Ave Satanas (the Ask a Satanist thread)

    [quote author=thalassa link=topic=108.msg3702#msg3702 date=1287293560]
    " 5. Do not make sexual advances unless you are given the mating signal."

    *wonders what the mating signal is*
    [/quote]
    I am going with " Don't be a douche or douchette" You start flirting with someone and they aren't flirting with you? Or are in a relationship? Well you get what comes to you. Either a good time from a whore or whore man...or a big fat punch in the face. Take your chances!
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    Re: Ave Satanas (the Ask a Satanist thread)

    Do you have any holidays? If so, are they more for secular reasons than religious ones as you are athiest? What about theistic Satanists? I'm thinking Christian holidays would be a no-go, but... I don't know.

    ps. I was working my way through a lot of these religious threads on the old site, and many of my questions were getting answered that way, but I ran out of time so I'm posing those that were left.
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    Re: Ave Satanas (the Ask a Satanist thread)

    I really like the 9 Satanic Statements and 11 Rules of the Earth. Except for one here and there they seem pretty rational to me.

    I have a question though. In your Religious Outlook you wrote LaVeyan Satanist and you are a modern, atheistic Satanist, does that mean that Traditional, theistic Satanists call themselves something else?


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    Re: Ave Satanas (the Ask a Satanist thread)

    [quote author=Thaleia Chara link=topic=108.msg4659#msg4659 date=1287469112]
    I have a question though. In your Religious Outlook you wrote LaVeyan Satanist and you are a modern, atheistic Satanist, does that mean that Traditional, theistic Satanists call themselves something else?
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    My sister was a theistic Satanist back in the 70s/early 80s, before she became Wiccan in the early 90s. She never referred to herself specifically as a 'theistic/deistic' Satanist. I'm not sure if it's because she didn't know other types of Satanism might exist, or if it was because other sects didn't really pop up until more recently. I'd never heard of Setianism before the late 90s, and I still think to myself that they're trying to ride on the shirt-tails of 'true' Satanism.
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    Re: Ave Satanas (the Ask a Satanist thread)

    [quote author=Thaleia Chara link=topic=108.msg4659#msg4659 date=1287469112]
    I really like the 9 Satanic Statements and 11 Rules of the Earth. Except for one here and there they seem pretty rational to me.

    I have a question though. In your Religious Outlook you wrote LaVeyan Satanist and you are a modern, atheistic Satanist, does that mean that Traditional, theistic Satanists call themselves something else?
    [/quote]
    Modern as in not the Traditional Satanists..who tend to be theistic. They could be called Traditional or spiritual etc. It's just to differentiate theistic and Atheistic really.
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    Re: Ave Satanas (the Ask a Satanist thread)

    So...why call one's self a Satanist then? Why not just call it ego-driven atheism?

    (tries to think of the other gazillion questions that cropped up in the other thread)
    “You have never answered but you did not need to. If I stand at the ocean I can hear you with your thousand voices. Sometimes you shout, hilarious laughter that taunts all questions. Other nights you are silent as death, a mirror in which the stars show themselves. Then I think you want to tell me something, but you never do. Of course I know I have written letters to no-one. But what if I find a trident tomorrow?" ~~Letters to Poseidon, Cees Nooteboom

    “We still carry this primal relationship to the Earth within our consciousness, even if we have long forgotten it. It is a primal recognition of the wonder, beauty, and divine nature of the Earth. It is a felt reverence for all that exists. Once we bring this foundational quality into our consciousness, we will be able to respond to our present man-made crisis from a place of balance, in which our actions will be grounded in an attitude of respect for all of life. This is the nature of real sustainability.”
    ~~Llewellyn Vaughan-Lee

    "We are the offspring of history, and must establish our own paths in this most diverse and interesting of conceivable universes--one indifferent to our suffering, and therefore offering us maximal freedom to thrive, or to fail, in our own chosen way."
    ~~Stephen Jay Gould, Wonderful Life: The Burgess Shale and the Nature of History

    "Humans are not rational creatures. Now, logic and rationality are very helpful tools, but there’s also a place for embracing our subjectivity and thinking symbolically. Sometimes what our so-called higher thinking can’t or won’t see, our older, more primitive intuition will." John Beckett

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