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    Re: Whatcha thinking about now?

    Got someone to cover my HD shift on Thursday!!! Thats a whole day off from both places. I am going to do nothing!
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    Re: Whatcha thinking about now?

    Quote Originally Posted by Azvanna View Post
    Is there a word for when there can only be one side to a discussion? In one of the facebook groups I'm in, there's a "discussion" about white privilege. I haven't got involved in it because it's a lost cause. Discussion centres around a few points like systematic racism, oppression and of course the White persons ignorance of the battles of people of colour. The only discussion you can have is how ashamed you are to be white and the only discussion a person of colour can have is how oppressed and unheard they feel. The more aware and sorry a white person feels for having white privilege, the more enlightened they are as one of the defining factors of white privilege is how much white people hate talking about racism and especially their own racism. Therefore, if you have a different point of view as a white person, your blind and ignorant to your own privilege and racism. You racist bigot, you. It's very exasperating. I guess I'm racist and suffer too much from white privilege.

    This got a little rant-ish sorry. So yea.. Is there a word for being checkmated before you even enter a discussion?
    For me I was kind of confused about all that because while I do believe white privilege exists, the whole concept that isn't exactly spoken, but is implied, is that you have to hate yourself and spend all your time trying to correct others and tell them how privileged they are, while you can't enjoy anything because white culture hasn't created anything of their own and appropriates everything. I think the whole concept is very destructive, because I'm a very world minded person, and I believe we should bring our cultures together, though not diluting it so culture's meaning gets lost.

    But while I digress a little bit, I still think it's important to just recognize that people of non majority races have a hard time, and structure your worldview around that, be nice and friendly to everyone, and promote peace and understanding between cultures. But you can do that without hating yourself for being white.

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    I was watching on the news a discussion with BLM and a person from the main stream,and they were talking over each other. When one would start speaking,the other jumped in with why the person speaking was wrong,then it would start with the second person speaking,and again the first would jump in the middle and chastise the speaker for being WRONG..and I thought..we are all in for a VERY bad summer.

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    Re: Whatcha thinking about now?

    Quote Originally Posted by toxicyarnglare View Post
    ..But you can do that without hating yourself for being white.
    Yes, exactly. Also, for me race goes far deeper than skin colour. It's culture and how you're raised. I have some friends from PNG. The wife is blonde haired blue eyed fair skinned and the husband is dark skinned, dark eyes, 'fro going on. When they both moved here to Australia, he fit in very easily but she had a really difficult time. So who's got white privilege there? Also, there's a man from my church who's white as but his cultural identity is Torres Strait Islander and it shows up in everything he does. What about his white privilege? Maybe I don't get it. All I see is a lot of yelling and shaming. Which brings me too...

    Quote Originally Posted by anunitu View Post
    I was watching on the news a discussion with BLM and a person from the main stream,and they were talking over each other. When one would start speaking,the other jumped in with why the person speaking was wrong,then it would start with the second person speaking,and again the first would jump in the middle and chastise the speaker for being WRONG..and I thought..we are all in for a VERY bad summer.
    This video was really really good at expressing an opinion about why US politics got so polarised using maths! Disagreeing doesn't have to mean disrespecting. Watch from about 3 minutes in. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpWQ...ature=youtu.be
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    Re: Whatcha thinking about now?

    The whole idea of "white" privilege is racist anyway. It is whitewashing history, and downplays the impact of class inequality. Of segregation and ghettos.

    It's also fundamentally wrong, both historically and currently. Historically, many ethnic groups we think of as "white" were horribly discriminated against. Irish Americans in particular have just as much a history (or in the same ballpark, anyway) of it as African Americans.

    Currently, Asians, Jews, and Indians are the most successful ethnic groups by most ways of measuring it. I just find it hypocritical that it is acceptable to talk about "white privilege" but not "Jewish privilege." It is literally the same argument.

    I don't care that they are 2% of the population, yet 40% of the billionaires and 139 of the Forbes 400. Who even cares? It's just so collectivist and gross, fundamentally denies agency and individuality.
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    Brother in law bought cards against humanity for husbands birthday yay, we've wanted it for ages but it hasn't been available in Denmark until a month or two ago. Can't wait to play
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    It is stinkin' hot out.

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    Re: Whatcha thinking about now?

    Quote Originally Posted by iris View Post
    Brother in law bought cards against humanity for husbands birthday yay, we've wanted it for ages but it hasn't been available in Denmark until a month or two ago. Can't wait to play
    I keep wanting to buy this and I just keep talking myself out of it! Some of the expansions are hilarious but I don't have anyone to play with.

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