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    Re: Greek Primordial Dieties

    I'm gonna necro an old thread rather than start a new one...


    here's a nifty little piece about okeanos and ancient Greek art
    “You have never answered but you did not need to. If I stand at the ocean I can hear you with your thousand voices. Sometimes you shout, hilarious laughter that taunts all questions. Other nights you are silent as death, a mirror in which the stars show themselves. Then I think you want to tell me something, but you never do. Of course I know I have written letters to no-one. But what if I find a trident tomorrow?" ~~Letters to Poseidon, Cees Nooteboom

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    Re: Greek Primordial Dieties

    I was going to send you a link to that, but I only got half through reading it before I got called away to do homework

    damn it! while I was typing that, the dog found and ate my hotdog.
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    Re: Greek Primordial Dieties

    What's interesting to me about that vase is Oceanus's horns. How many sea creatures have horns? The horned cap is a distinctive head-dress of Mesopotamian gods and it's often said that Homer's statement that Oceanus is the father of the gods is one of the many ideas he got from the east. In Mesopotamia, the parents of the gods are the primal waters, Apsu and Tiamat who emerge from nothingness. The Orphic teachings of Hieronymos kept that idea, with Oceanus and Tethys. Pherecydes (whose father came from Asia Minor) also started with Oceanus.

    Herodotus made Oceanus a child of Gaia and Ouranos, which is probably the original Greek idea. That view was adopted by the Orphic teacher Eudemos and it became standard Orphism. Plato takes the Hieronyman line in the Cratylus and the Eudemian one in the Timaeus, but he took myths very flexibly.

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