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    #31
    Re: Why do you call youself Pagan?

    I'm still using the term pagan, although it does feel 'tired' now somehow. I mean, it feels like I've been using this term for so long, and through so many changes in my core beliefs that it lacks the luster the term had when I first started calling myself a pagan.

    The reason I don't feel I could drop it is that trying to define my beliefs any other way is just a headache. I honestly don't know what would best describe me, especially as right at this point in my life I'm going through quite rapid changes of perspective. Shamanism might describe my current theology, but this is possibly even more loaded a term than pagan, and the debates generated even more intense.

    So for now. I'm pagan. Just pagan. It tells you very little about me, but it will do.
    夕方に急なにわか雨は「夕立」と呼ばれるなら、なぜ朝ににわか雨は「朝立ち」と呼ばれないの? ^^If a sudden rain shower in the evening is referred to as an 'evening stand', then why isn't a shower in the morning called 'morning stand'?

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      #32
      Re: Why do you call youself Pagan?

      Good question. I consider myself pagan because the main definition of Pagan, to me, is something more Earth-related and related to the old paths before Christianity came along (polytheism, greek and roman and celts and vikings and all of those awesome people). But, on my daily life, I consider myself more of a Witch than a Pagan, but both names for me are okay honestly. I think it's a term that, even though its roots and origin are different than what it means now, kinda of defines an universe of paths and roads that have some (not all) aspects in common.

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        #33
        Re: Why do you call youself Pagan?

        I don't even know, I remember when I heard it for the first time, meaning "non-Christian" and I sort of adopted it back then.
        But nowadays I somehow associate it with metal music and such things that don't even interest me anymore. But as a concept it covers pretty much everything I am and what I believe in. I am not a Witch and definitely not a Shaman (some folks have used that as my nickname though) so Pagan be it then.
        I actually don't even like the word so much. Perhaps that's only a good thing, then I must get serious in order to use it, instead of something that would sound fancier to my ears.
        baah.

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          #34
          Re: Why do you call youself Pagan?

          I don't call myself Pagan, but rather, Heathen. If someone asks me my religion, barring the somewhat rude "none of your damn business" response, I say "Oh, I'm a Heathen". Let them think it means I don't believe in God (I don't), and it really does express my religion. And the person is none the wiser. The way I do it may be a little deceptive, however... Seriously, most people simply don't understand, and I really can't be bothered explaining (or defending) my beliefs, unless they are genuinely curious and respectful. Then I'll talk a blue streak.
          śivāya vishnu rūpaya śivaḥ rūpaya vishnave
          śivasya hridayam viṣṇur viṣṇoscha hridayam śivaḥ

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            #35
            Re: Why do you call youself Pagan?

            I prefer solitary witch to pagan, though pagan will do in a pinch Usually though, I'll just tell people that my family isn't religious, which technically is true. I have to trust someone a great deal before I'll share the truth with them.

            Back in college, a friend found one of my witchcraft type books in my dorm room. After that, I would sometimes randomly come into my room to find her praying. It was both funny and annoying, until it just became annoying. It's just easier if people in general don't know.

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              #36
              Re: Why do you call youself Pagan?

              The word Pagan fits me perfectly, so I still use it although it seems to be describing a more New-Agey type lately that I'm not at all similar to. But then I haven't been active in the Pagan online community enough lately to be sure of what's going on and how things have changed; it just seems like I'm hearing the term fall out of favor and it seems to be because it's gaining a reputation as kind of hippie or dreamy.
              I use Pagan because of it's rural meaning as well as the tendency to indicate polytheism.

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                #37
                Re: Why do you call youself Pagan?

                Merry meet! I am new here, and this is my first post.

                This is a great question. I had to think about it for a few minutes (and still didn't come up with a complex analytical answer, LOL!)

                For me, I prefer the term Pagan over Witch or Wiccan. For me, it's just fitting. I feel 'at home'...

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                  #38
                  Re: Why do you call youself Pagan?

                  It's a convenient label. It is a reclaiming, as it were, of a term that was originally intended as an insult, and that can only be a good thing.

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                    #39
                    Re: Why do you call youself Pagan?

                    I feel like just the fact that it means 'non-Christian' or whatever, doesn't take any power from it. It doesn't bother me that my religion is defined in terms of Christianity. History is written by the victors, and historically, the literate victors were Christians. They would naturally refer to everyone else as different.

                    Labels exist for a reason, to make life easier. There are some labels who are harmful because they come from a time of hate and fear. But I feel like nowadays we are reclaiming the word 'pagan' just as we are reclaiming 'witch' and what was once a harmful and fearful word can soon be just another word of many to describe who and what we are.

                    Personally, it doesn't bother me. I embrace it.
                    She is like a cat in the dark and then she is the darkness. ~~(=^._.^)

                    I got my war paint on and I'm off to go passive-aggressive all over these socially awkward man-witches. :XD:

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                      #40
                      Re: Why do you call youself Pagan?

                      It's something I just call myself when I can't be bothered to explain everything, or when I have and the person doesn't get it and I would like to summarize it one word in a way that they'd understand immediately.

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                        #41
                        Re: Why do you call youself Pagan?

                        Pagan, from the Latin; pagani
                        It means someone who doesn't follow a "civil" code of religion.
                        It has the connotation; "one who is backwards" or "uneducated" in the civil sense.

                        Being Pagan in a world of established religions the definition fits. If Christianity is the "civil religion" then I don't follow. I would rather lead. As far as being uneducated, well, I am better educated than 70% of the population. I hold two doctorate and two masters degrees. My IQ is more than 40 points higher than the national average. I fit the Pagan norm; pagans are brighter and better educated than the average person.
                        The Dragon sees infinity and those it touches are forced to feel the reality of it.
                        I am his student and his partner. He is my guide and an ominous friend.

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                          #42
                          Re: Why do you call youself Pagan?

                          Originally posted by DragonsFriend View Post
                          Pagan, from the Latin; pagani
                          It means someone who doesn't follow a "civil" code of religion.
                          It has the connotation; "one who is backwards" or "uneducated" in the civil sense.

                          Being Pagan in a world of established religions the definition fits. If Christianity is the "civil religion" then I don't follow. I would rather lead. As far as being uneducated, well, I am better educated than 70% of the population. I hold two doctorate and two masters degrees. My IQ is more than 40 points higher than the national average. I fit the Pagan norm; pagans are brighter and better educated than the average person.
                          I know quite a few dumb ass pagans.
                          Satan is my spirit animal

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                            #43
                            Re: Why do you call youself Pagan?

                            Originally posted by Medusa View Post
                            I know quite a few dumb ass pagans.
                            Not everyone can be in the same place on a curve.

                            On the other hand I know some that are smarter than I.
                            The Dragon sees infinity and those it touches are forced to feel the reality of it.
                            I am his student and his partner. He is my guide and an ominous friend.

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                              #44
                              Re: Why do you call youself Pagan?

                              Maybe another reason for calling myself a pagan because I AM one. Pagan - is a general term.
                              "Fair means that everybody gets what they need. And the only way to get that is to make it happen yourself."



                              Since I adore cats, I might write something strange or unusual in my comment.Cats are awesome!!! ^_^

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                                #45
                                Re: Why do you call youself Pagan?

                                Originally posted by DragonsFriend View Post
                                I fit the Pagan norm; pagans are brighter and better educated than the average person.
                                Citation Needed
                                life itself was a lightsaber in his hands; even in the face of treachery and death and hopes gone cold, he burned like a candle in the darkness. Like a star shining in the black eternity of space.

                                Yoda: Dark Rendezvous

                                "But those men who know anything at all about the Light also know that there is a fierceness to its power, like the bare sword of the law, or the white burning of the sun." Suddenly his voice sounded to Will very strong, and very Welsh. "At the very heart, that is. Other things, like humanity, and mercy, and charity, that most good men hold more precious than all else, they do not come first for the Light. Oh, sometimes they are there; often, indeed. But in the very long run the concern of you people is with the absolute good, ahead of all else..."

                                John Rowlands, The Grey King by Susan Cooper

                                "You come from the Lord Adam and the Lady Eve", said Aslan. "And that is both honour enough to erect the head of the poorest beggar, and shame enough to bow the shoulders of the greatest emperor on earth; be content."

                                Aslan, Prince Caspian by CS Lewis


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