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    Seven deadly sins

    It is not necessary to be Catholic, or religious at all, to consider this framework for human ethics. I often accidentally find myself thinking about this classification of vice. It happened this morning when I felt proud of something I had done and began pondering pride as a sin. I grew up with a mother constantly admonishing me to "show a little pride" in the things I did, and clergy admonishing me to cultivate humility, that "pride goeth before destruction." An ironic twist is that I have known a few people quite proud of their humility. Anyway, another occasion this morning to revisit what pride is and is not, which once again opened the doorway to thinking about all of the supposed vices.

    Without looking it up, can you list the seven deadly sins? Give it a try and see. I almost always miss the one or two that I am currently struggling with, as if my mind hides them from me.

    So here is the list: pride, wrath, sloth, envy, greed, gluttony, lust. I actually listed from the one I have struggled with most to the one I have struggled with least. Let me clarify that to me lust is not wanting a lot of sex, but more the strong desire for anything of a material nature from money to power. Similarly, I don't see sloth as not cleaning one's living quarters, but laziness of mind and unwillingness to act when seeing the need for action.

    I was wondering if others had pondered these and what they meant to you if you have. Is there one vice in particular with which you struggle?

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    Re: Seven deadly sins

    Envy and pride. I am to proud to admit I need help and ask for it. Envy I sometimes get to focused on how green the grass is on the other side. I consider them weaknesses and strengths they help motivate me to work harder.

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    Re: Seven deadly sins

    I think these are terrible things, not the feelings but the idea that they must be "fought."

    There is nothing better than a lust for life, pride in your accomplishments, rest when you are tired (sloth), aspiring to be better (envy), having and taking what you desire not just the bare minimum to survive (gluttony), greed is just a word people use when they envy what you have and want you to give it to them and wrath...sometimes anger is righteous and it is necessary to protect the people and things you have chosen to assign value to.

    I HATE the idea that these basic human emotions are wrong and bad. I think it is in denying then, seeing these normal urges as wrong/evil/bad is what makes them so powerful that they prevent you from feeling joy. The entire point of sins are to make you feel guilty and I say NO.

    Letting go of being Catholic is hard. It's such a part of your mind that you actually confuse feelings with actions. They teach you that FEELING lust or greed are bad, even if you don't act on them. I struggled with those feelings for years and that's no way to live.

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    Re: Seven deadly sins

    Bouncing off Rowanwood^ I just think there are two sides to every coin, I feel the moment you define Sin is the moment the negative side becomes more apparent than the positive side etc etc. thus I don't like the concept. I usually just operate on the 'wow scale'. That is; if I do something bad, 'wow that was bad'; if I do something good, 'wow that was good', and I endeavor to act according to the experiences instead of a specific, kinda-vague set of rules
    I do however, find myself recoiling a lot from the opinions and emotions of other people, so if anything my 'Sin' would be a lack of self-belief/self-respect (though it's probably not comparable to the Seven above).
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    Re: Seven deadly sins

    The 7 deadly sins only showed up in the 1400's or so,not mentioned in the Bible ever.
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    Re: Seven deadly sins

    Erm I need to look this up before I can be 100% sure, but as I recall the seven deadly sins goes all the way back to the 4th or 5th century and the founding of the Christian church. Though, again if I recall correctly, the list was originally a bit different. I believe they were made "popular" when Dante used them in his Divine Comedy (which is from the 14th century), but he didn't invent them.
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    Re: Seven deadly sins

    Do that Moonraven,My memory is from a history channel thing from a while back..
    MAGIC is MAGIC,black OR white or even blood RED

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    Re: Seven deadly sins

    Late 6th century.

    Sadness used to be a deadly sin until the 17th century.

    SADNESS.

    http://deadlysins.com/sins/history.html

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    Re: Seven deadly sins

    Damn Rowan,I must have broken this sin a few times in my life,who knew...Le Sigh...
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    Re: Seven deadly sins

    Quote Originally Posted by Rowanwood View Post
    I think these are terrible things, not the feelings but the idea that they must be "fought."

    There is nothing better than a lust for life, pride in your accomplishments, rest when you are tired (sloth), aspiring to be better (envy), having and taking what you desire not just the bare minimum to survive (gluttony), greed is just a word people use when they envy what you have and want you to give it to them and wrath...sometimes anger is righteous and it is necessary to protect the people and things you have chosen to assign value to.

    I HATE the idea that these basic human emotions are wrong and bad. I think it is in denying then, seeing these normal urges as wrong/evil/bad is what makes them so powerful that they prevent you from feeling joy. The entire point of sins are to make you feel guilty and I say NO.
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    ^^^^^^^^^^^ so much of that ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rowanwood View Post
    Late 6th century.

    Sadness used to be a deadly sin until the 17th century.

    SADNESS.

    http://deadlysins.com/sins/history.html
    Wow...... A lost for words. I couldnt be catholic I never understood the confession process commit adultry go say ten hail marrys.

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