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    Getting rid of household pests...

    And no, I don't mean your younger sibling, thoughtless spouse or curtain climbing loin fruit...

    I know in the past (pre-crash, or PrC) we always have multiple threads running amok on everything from ants to fleas to flies to well...whatever. In the hopes of staving off 26gajillion 5 post threads on the same 8 topics (I keed, I keed...mebee not kidding...perhaps just a leetle exaggeration), I figure if you have a remedy, idea, problem, etc...post it here.


    Which brings me to my current problem.


    HOLY CARP, OUR NEIGHBOR GAVE US FLEAS!

    (I know it came from them, because they complained about our other neighbor dog sitting, and then their dog had fleas last week)

    Poor Tess, she was itchy enough already (and I know she didn't have them before, I checked and checked and checked and checked)...but then, yesterday, I found a flea on poor Sophie, and today one on Tess.

    We already frontline religiously (I hate fleas) and I vacuum almost daily.... I went ahead (the kids are at grandma's b/c of the paper I have to write tonite) and have now sprayed most of the carpeting, as well as their mattresses, and the couch, which are now airing out in their room with the window open. And all of the bedding is in the wash, and is getting dried with lavender oil.


    What else can I do at this point?

    I need Tess (and the house) to be flea free in 2 weeks, to go to the kennel so we can all visit Scott.

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    Re: Getting rid of household pests...

    Feed the dogs a good bit of brewers yeast in their food ... As much as you can get them to eat ... Fleas hate it ...
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    The Chief stared at the government official for over a minute and then calmly replied.. "When white man find land, Indians running it, no taxes, no debt, plenty buffalo, plenty beaver, clean water. Women did all the work, Medicine Man free. Indian man spend all day hunting and fishing; all night having sex."

    Then the chief leaned back and smiled; "Only white man dumb enough to think he could improve system like that."




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    Re: Getting rid of household pests...

    I think my family had to spray our carpets twice before we finally got rid of the buggers. We used a spray that kills eggs, not just live fleas--I can find out what it's called if you want. Is frontline the goop you put on the back of the animal's neck? Cos that's the only thing that worked for us.

    In other news, HOLY CARP, OUR APARTMENT HAS ANTS!
    Lots of them. They flee inside whenever it rains, and when it's winter in the Bay Area, that leads to weekends like the one before last when I commit ant genocide and eradicate trails with 409 (cleaning fluid) twice a day. We've got traps out kind of constantly. I try to keep up on the dishes, but it only kind of matters. Whether or not there are dishes out, they'll find their way into the pantry and attack anything remotely sweet and not in a plastic bag or bin. Help?
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    Re: Getting rid of household pests...

    [quote author=magusjinx link=topic=1037.msg19151#msg19151 date=1291259368]
    Feed the dogs a good bit of brewers yeast in their food ... As much as you can get them to eat ... Fleas hate it ...[/quote]
    Can you feed that stuff to cats too? My kitties are strictly indoors so I don't know how they got fleas. I've been flea free for years. I tried the Frontline stuff, but it didn't work at all. Maybe they have "super fleas"...great. >

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    Re: Getting rid of household pests...

    Quote Originally Posted by Storm View Post
    [quote author=magusjinx link=topic=1037.msg19151#msg19151 date=1291259368]
    Feed the dogs a good bit of brewers yeast in their food ... As much as you can get them to eat ... Fleas hate it ...
    Can you feed that stuff to cats too? My kitties are strictly indoors so I don't know how they got fleas. I've been flea free for years. I tried the Frontline stuff, but it didn't work at all. Maybe they have "super fleas"...great. >[/QUOTE]

    I found this looking for remedies to treat our dogs for fleas

    If you are a pet owner you will probably already know that the spring and summer are when the flea population multiplies. Fleas are annoying and can irritate and bite both you and your pet which can lead to scabs and skin lesions. Fleas are the most troublesome in the spring and summer as this is when they begin breeding outside and start jumping around the grass eventually making their way into your home. If you have an indoor pet you are still likely to develop a flea problem on your furniture, carpet and pet. There are many different ways to get rid of fleas but as a pet owner, I have a concern for using a chemical-based product due to the potential toxins this creates in the house. Looking up information on the Internet about how to get rid of fleas naturally inside my home has lead me to a simple and inexpensive remedy. Salt and baking soda was something I stumbled upon and thought that this was an inexpensive and safe way to remove fleas, but I was very skeptical of this. If you have a flea problem in your house and want safe alternatives to get rid of them, using salt and baking soda might just be a solution.Salt and baking soda are two common household items that you can find just about anywhere and you can get them both for about 4 dollars. It is a good idea to buy the bigger containers of salt, any kind will work but Morton's is one of the best brands of salt for this flea treatment. For this natural indoor flea remedy you are going to also need a broom so you can push the salt and baking soda into the carpet. Using natural remedies to kill fleas in the carpet is something I was interested in since most flea products are toxic chemicals. When you have a flea infestation in your home it can really become a nuisance because they multiply within days and can get all over your furniture and bedding. To eliminate fleas from your home you need to remove them from your carpets while killing the eggs and the adult fleas as well. A lot of products do not end up killing both the adult flea and the eggs but baking soda and salt seems to really work. You can mix the two products together in a container or you can apply them separately to your carpet which is what I ended up doing. You also want to remove your pet from the areas you are going to treat especially if your pet likes to lay on the carpet. A pet on the carpet of the treated areas might become irritated and have a burning sensation occur on their fur if they have open flea bites coming in contact with the salt.
    The first thing you want to do when you are using the baking soda and salt treatment to kill fleas is remove all of your furniture from the carpet you want to treat. Take the salt first and sprinkle it fairly heavily onto your carpets going from right to left, applying liberally. I used about one-third of the big salt container for each flea-removal application so depending on the size and number of carpets you treat will determine how much salt to use. Make sure you cover the whole room in a light salt drizzle so that you will be killing the fleas from every aspect of the carpet. Then you want to use the same process for the baking soda, applying liberally from one corner of the room to the next corner. You do not need to use as much baking soda since it can be a hassle when it comes time to using the broom but you want to make sure you sprinkle it throughout the carpet. Once you have both products on the carpet, take your broom and sweep from right to left so that your carpet is absorbing the salt and baking soda. The key to killing the flea eggs is to get deep into the carpet fibers where the flea eggs are most likely to be so make sure you sweep firmly into the carpet. You can leave this flea treatment on your carpet anywhere from 12 hours to a week depending how severe the flea infestation is inside your home.
    The salt and baking soda works by basically dehydrating the flea and eggs so they are unable to survive, which will eventually kill them. Since flea eggs hatch within about three days, it is important you keep repeating the salt and baking soda treatment everyday for at least three to four days. Personally, I would put the concoction together on the carpet in the evening and leave it overnight until the next afternoon but it can be done at any time within the day. After you have left the treatment on the carpet for a while, you need to vacuum the fleas up so that you can get rid of the dying or dead and start the process over again. If you are using a vacuum that has a bag with it, you need to empty the bag or throw the bag away immediately following the cleaning. Using a debris canister on a bagless vacuum is easier than throwing away bags but again you should empty the contents immediately following the cleaning. You want to throw away the contents of the vacuum outside in your trash can as opposed to the one in the house because fleas will jump out of the inside trash can and infest your carpets all over again. When you are vacuuming it is important to use the tile setting or bare floors setting because you want the vacuum to get deep into your carpets, even if this makes it hard to push the vacuum.
    If you repeat this process for about four days or a week, you will be one step closer to getting rid of the fleas for good. I have been doing this for a week and after being reluctant to drizzle salt all over I have realized it really does work. The only bad thing about it is that when you apply the salt and baking soda, it makes the fleas very active since they are trying to get away from the treatment. During the treatment on the carpet, you might want to wear slippers or shoes because the fleas will end up jumping on your legs left and right. This process does work however it will not essentially kill all of the fleas. The most important aspect of killing fleas is vacuuming the carpet everyday whether you use a natural remedy or not. The salt and baking soda flea treatment is great because it is not toxic to people or pets and it is very inexpensive to buy. Products like Raid cost about eight dollars for a spray bottle and might only last for one application depending on the amount of carpet you have. Raid and similar products are also very toxic and can harm both you and your pet if ingested or inhaled which is a common concern for people with an indoor pet. Using salt and baking soda is actually one of the best natural ways to get rid of fleas because it kills both the flea and egg so reproduction is not likely. If you are looking for a safe, natural and inexpensive way to get rid of fleas in your home and on your carpet, then this is something you should start doing.

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    Re: Getting rid of household pests...

    Don't see why it wouldn't work for cats too ... But be careful with either pets ... They can develop some bad infections because of the yeast ... Garlic granules might work for cats ... Does for dogs ... So much for puppy breath ...
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    Then the chief leaned back and smiled; "Only white man dumb enough to think he could improve system like that."




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    Re: Getting rid of household pests...

    For ants and other crawly type bugs... Be insanely protective against crumbs for awhile. I know that's difficult with toddlers, hell it's difficult with adults. But eat only at the table and swipe and vaccume immediately after eating. Keep your (indoor) garbage cans right outside the kitchen door, or farther away if you don't mind walking every time you need to through something away. Welcome spiders (cringing at thought, but...). Get a good spray for your house, I think we use Orchid or something like that that works really well. You can spray it inside so that the rain won't wash it away.

    If you eliminate their access to a food source, they are no longer interested. I remember having to throw out every boxed food we had in our cuboards when I was little because whatever bug we had ate through the plastic. The only thing it couldn't get to was canned food or things in the fridge, which was what we lived off for a couple weeks until we hadn't seen the bugs for awhile.

    As for fleas... well they feed off of flesh so you can't eliminate their food source exactly. I have read about a powder product called Fleabuster. However, the first step seems to be to get them off your pet. And even before that, make sure the source of fleas has been eliminated. For instance, if they are now in your yard and multiplying, it does no good to get them off your dog as the dog will pick them up the next time they go outside. I think I heard about vinegar being good against fleas as well, but I don't remember where or how reliable it is. Vinegar seems to be an almost-all-purpose product actually...
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    Re: Getting rid of household pests...

    The fastest way to get rid of mice is to either get a ferret, or borrow one, or even go to a pet store where there is one and ask to rub a washcloth over it. Put that in the place in your home where the mice are most often heard or seen. They will pack their bags and leave the state! LOL It doesn't work for bugs though. Ants don't like to cross a line of cayenne pepper, but that gets difficult to keep up. The best defense, as someone above mentioned, is to be super-vigilant about crumbs/cleanliness.

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    Garlic is always good for flea problems. It is also great for us to keep mosquitoes away in the Summer. Apparently, they don't like garlic any more than vampires (hey, they kinda are vampires).
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    Re: Getting rid of household pests...

    If you live in an apartment/duplex or some other communal setting, you probably should get your landlord involved and call in a professional. Eradicating fleas in your home will not last if they are migrating through your neighbor's wall.

    If you live in a house with a raised foundation, or one with any kind of crawlspace, the entire underneath needs to be treated, probably twice a week for 2 or 3 weeks.

    The problem with fleas are the eggs, which are produced in abundance, and hatch quickly. Use a product that is specifically designed to kill eggs.

    In cold weather, the populations will mass near sources of warmth, especially dry areas.

    If you are treating dirt under your house, hose the area with water first, then after an hour of drying (in cold weather) nuke 'em with the heavy duty chemicals.

    Good luck!

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