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    Rune of the Month

    Here begins our Rune of the Month (or maybe fortnight... we'll see how we go) endeavor.

    Each month, I will post up a rune that I have chosen at random from a hat (actually it's a plastic container from my kitchen). I have included in the container all of the Elder Futhark runes and the extra runes from the Anglo Saxon Futhorc... this way we will have runes from all three of the major futhark/orcs and each will have an equal chance of being chosen or putting themselves forward. When each is chosen, I will post it's name and some basic data, including the closest 'equivalent' rune from the Younger Futhark and Anglo Saxon Futhorc. Then everyone can add some information, experience or insight that they have to offer regarding this rune. Each rune will then miraculously have it's name in the Index List linked to the page in this thread where it's discussion begins. If we ask very nicely, someone might even sticky the thread for us.

    In the interests of this being a collaborative effort, please DO NOT post entire essays on everything that you know about the rune... lets give everyone a chance to contribute and have their say. Appropriate things to post about include history or archaeological attestations (though personally I'd rather we stuck to personal experiences), alternative names/spellings/pronunciations, modern rune poems, personal insights, meditations, divinations, uses for magick, uses for galdr, uses for bindrunes, correspondences, stadhagaldr stances/runic yoga, pictures, poems, stories and anything else that you feel is relevant to the rune of the month. Ask questions of each other, discuss the finer points of a philosophy, but please remember to be civil and considerate of each others' personal opinions and experiences. There are no wrong answers here and new or modern experiences are encouraged. Also, please remember to include sources where appropriate... plagiarism is not tolerated at PF and is incredibly bad manners.

    Onto the runes...

    Fehu/Fe/Feoh
    Uruz/Ur/Ur
    Thurisaz/Thurs/Thorn
    Ansuz/As/Os
    Raido/Reidh/Rad
    Kenaz/Kaun/Cen
    Gebo/-/Gyfu
    Wunjo/-/Wynn
    Hagalaz/Hagall/Haegl
    Naudhiz/Naudhr/Nyd
    Isa/Iss/Is
    Jera/Ar/Ger
    Eihwaz/Yr/Eoh
    Pertho/-/Peorth
    Algiz/-/Eohl
    Sowilo/Sol/Sigel
    Tiwaz/Tyr/Tir
    Berkana/Bjarkan/Beorc
    Ehwaz/-/Eh
    Mannaz/Madr/Mann
    Laguz/Logr/Lagu
    Ingwaz/-/Ing
    Othala/-/Ethel
    Dagaz/-/Daeg
    -/-/Ac
    -/-/Aesc
    -/-/Yr
    -/-/Ior
    -/-/Ear
    -/-/Cweorth
    -/-/Calc
    -/-/Stan
    -/-/Gar
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    We haz breaks.
    "It is not simply enough to know the lighta Jedi must feel the tension between the two sides of the Forcein himself and in the universe."
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    "When to the Force you truly give yourself, all you do expresses the truth of who you are,"

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    "But those men who know anything at all about the Light also know that there is a fierceness to its power, like the bare sword of the law, or the white burning of the sun." Suddenly his voice sounded to Will very strong, and very Welsh. "At the very heart, that is. Other things, like humanity, and mercy, and charity, that most good men hold more precious than all else, they do not come first for the Light. Oh, sometimes they are there; often, indeed. But in the very long run the concern of you people is with the absolute good, ahead of all else..."

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    "You come from the Lord Adam and the Lady Eve", said Aslan. "And that is both honour enough to erect the head of the poorest beggar, and shame enough to bow the shoulders of the greatest emperor on earth; be content."

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    Re: Rune of the Month

    Nauiz

    Elder Futhark: Nauiz, Proto Germanic, meaning 'need' or 'necessity'
    Younger Futhark: Naur, Old Norse, meaning 'need'
    Anglo Saxon Futhorc: Nyd, Old English, meaning 'need' or 'necessity'

    Phonetic value: 'n'

    Pronunciation:
    The Elder Futhark 'Nauiz' is pronounced along the lines of 'NOW-thizh' with the ending 'z' being an odd little sound halfway between an r and a z, which is rendered differently depending on what your accent is! That part will probably make more sense when we get to Algiz as that is the rune that has the phonetic value of the Proto Germanic 'z' or 'tz' or 'zh' sound, where I'll try to explain it further.

    In Old Norse, 'Naur' is pronounced 'NOW-thr', with no vowel sound in between the 'th' and the '-r'. In Old English, 'Nyd' is pronounced 'nieud' with the middle being like the German sound (round your lips and say ee).


    Now you all reply and add your insights...




    [Rune images are/will be the Elder Futhark runes, drawn by me on Paint, so forgive the slightly wonky straight lines... it's hard to draw a straight line with a mouse!]

    [Pronunciations are what I've put together over the years from a variety of sources. I can maybe dig out a list if I have to, but it involves lots of books and websites, some of which are contradictory. They are based on reconstructed languages that are no longer commonly spoken, NOT on modern German or Scandinavian languages. My advice is that if you want to look at modern languages, Modern Icelandic is the closest to Old Norse, but still has some major differences. Modern Danish, Swedish and Finnish are not accurate representations of Old Norse or Proto Germanic sounds, and while Modern German has some sounds right, it uses different letters and characters to represent them. I've never looked into Old Icelandic, so I don't have those pronunciations for the Younger Futhark runes. American speakers in particular may struggle with my pronunciations as some of the vowel sounds will be quite alien. Having said that, there are a million modern bastardisations of the rune names, so there's nothing wrong with a modern pronunciation it that's what you want to go with.]

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    Re: Rune of the Month

    Ehwaz

    Elder Futhark: Ehwaz, Proto Germanic, meaning 'horse'
    Younger Futhark: doesn't have a similar rune
    Anglo Saxon Futhorc: Eh or Eoh, Old English, meaning 'horse' or 'warhorse'

    Phonetic value: 'e'

    Pronunciation:
    The pronunciation of this rune is a bit controversial, because of the way that the two 'e' sounds of the Proto Germanic rune names have evolved and the differences in the way we pronounce 'e' compared to ancient languages. My research has pulled up two pronunciations for Ehwaz, but the more accurate sources (linguists and IPA rather than Heathens and rune authors) put it at 'AY-wazh', where the 'ay' part is like when you say 'eh?' when you didn't hear someone properly... it's like 'hey' in 'hey you' but with the 'h' dropped off the front. The 'zh' part is as described for Naudhiz. The IPA is [e], which I think is what confuses modern English speakers.

    In Old English, 'Eh' is pronounced pretty much as described above but with what they call an 'unvoiced spirant' at the end, which is like a soft German 'ch'. Eoh is more difficult... the first two letters are the same [e] we've talked about, but sliding into a soft 'o' (this is what they call a dipthong, where two vowel sounds slide into each other), with that unvoiced spirant at the end.


    Now you all reply and add your insights...

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    Re: Rune of the Month

    c

    Elder Futhark: -
    Younger Futhark: -
    Anglo Saxon Futhorc: c, meaning 'oak'

    Phonetic value: 'a'

    Pronunciation:
    In Old English, 'c' is pronounced 'aak'. The accented 'a' is like that in 'father' but drawn out a bit longer, which is why I say it's pronounced 'aa' rather than just 'a'. A nice easy one

    Note:
    We have a purely Anglo Saxon rune today! There is no directly equivalent rune in either the Elder or Younger futharks. This is one of the situations where the Anglo Saxon Futhorc has expanded on a rune from the the Elder Futhark, probably because of the changes in lanuage. The Elder Futhark has six vowel sounds, while the Anglo Saxon Futhorc has ten (the Younger Futhark has only four)... the extra Anglo Saxon runes represent diphthongs (combined vowel sounds) that weren't found in Old Norse and Proto Germanic. Each new rune then took on a meaning that wasn't necessarily represented in the Elder or Younger Futharks.

    The 'a' runes in the Elder and younger Futharks are Ansuz and s, but their meanings are cognate to the Anglo Saxon s rune (the 'o' rune, just to be confusing) so I'll put them all together when I pull Ansuz.


    Now you all reply and add your insights... if you don't use Anglo Saxon runes, look it up and see what you think about the extra rune and what it might represent. How does that meaning fit into the Futhark that you use? If you had this rune in your set, how might you interpret it?

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    Re: Rune of the Month

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    c

    Elder Futhark: -
    Younger Futhark: -
    Anglo Saxon Futhorc: c, meaning 'oak'

    Phonetic value: 'a'

    Pronunciation:
    In Old English, 'c' is pronounced 'aak'. The accented 'a' is like that in 'father' but drawn out a bit longer, which is why I say it's pronounced 'aa' rather than just 'a'. A nice easy one

    Note:
    We have a purely Anglo Saxon rune today! There is no directly equivalent rune in either the Elder or Younger futharks. This is one of the situations where the Anglo Saxon Futhorc has expanded on a rune from the the Elder Futhark, probably because of the changes in lanuage. The Elder Futhark has six vowel sounds, while the Anglo Saxon Futhorc has ten (the Younger Futhark has only four)... the extra Anglo Saxon runes represent diphthongs (combined vowel sounds) that weren't found in Old Norse and Proto Germanic. Each new rune then took on a meaning that wasn't necessarily represented in the Elder or Younger Futharks.

    The 'a' runes in the Elder and younger Futharks are Ansuz and s, but their meanings are cognate to the Anglo Saxon s rune (the 'o' rune, just to be confusing) so I'll put them all together when I pull Ansuz.


    Now you all reply and add your insights... if you don't use Anglo Saxon runes, look it up and see what you think about the extra rune and what it might represent. How does that meaning fit into the Futhark that you use? If you had this rune in your set, how might you interpret it?
    There's quite a bit of prejudice against the AS runes, but they really do repay some study. And as I've probably said before, whatever Futhark/Futhorc you use, it's worth really looking into the background and then trying to work through them as a whole.

    In case you don't have a copy of the translation, there is one here https://www.ragweedforge.com/rpae.html
    However, there is no single translation of the various stanzas and that's important too, because they are open to interpretation. And each stanze has several layers of meaning.

    So, what do you think?
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    Re: Rune of the Month

    Wunjō

    Elder Futhark: Wunjō, Proto Germanic, meaning 'joy'
    Younger Futhark: doesn't have a similar rune
    Anglo Saxon Futhorc: Wynn, Old English, meaning 'joy'

    Phonetic value: 'v' (Wunjo) or 'w' (Wynn)

    Pronunciation:
    Forget everything you know about English with pronouncing this rune! Wunjo is pronounced 'voon-yoe'. But the 'voon' part is not like the US 'oo' sound in book or look. It's more like when you say the German 'vundabar' in an imitation German accent... or when you say 'vroom vroom' pretending to be a car with your kids. The beginning letter is pronounced 'v' rather than 'w'. The 'yo' part at the end is like saying the name 'Jo' or 'Joe' but with a 'y' instead of a 'j'.

    The Old English rune is also a bit tricky, mostly because modern English speakers tend to pronounce a middle 'y' the same as 'i', which is incorrect for Old English. The W is pronounced the same as in modern English just a little bit softer. The 'y' in the middle is like the German sound (round your lips and say ee). Double consonants in Old English are both pronounced, so the 'nn' at the end needs to be pronounced or at least lengthened. So 'Wynn' ends up being kind of like 'wieun-n'

    A fortuitous rune for the New Year, I think

    Now you all reply and add your insights...

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    Re: Rune of the Month

    Apologies for being a bit late this month. Life-stuff has been taking up the bulk of my time and attention at the moment. So back on track...

    Mannaz

    Elder Futhark: Mannaz, Proto Germanic, meaning 'man' (as in 'human' not man vs woman)
    Younger Futhark: Mar, Old Norse, meaning 'man' (though it has a different stave shape)
    Anglo Saxon Futhorc: Mann, Old English, meaning 'man'

    Phonetic value: 'm'

    Pronunciation:
    Mannaz is a nice, easy rune to pronounce. The 'a' sound is the longer 'a' as in 'father', and the ending 'z' is that odd little sound halfway between an r and a z. So we end up with 'MAHN-ahzh'.

    Mar has the longer a, and the character is a hard 'th' and there is no vowel sound in between the 'th' and the '-r'. So we end up with 'MAH-thr'

    The Old English is even easier, but remember that the 'a' is like in 'father' not our modern pronunciation of 'man', and double consonants are always pronounced... so 'Mahn-n'

    Now you all reply and add your insights...[/QUOTE]

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    Re: Rune of the Month

    Yeah, yeah... I'm like... five months late. But better late than never, right? Right?

    Also... I JUST realised that I can use the 'straight line' tool in Paint to make the runes without my awesome gaming mouse making it wobble around everywhere even when I've got it turned right down. Don't know why it took me so long to figure that out, but I was very excited that I did. So enjoy my new, NOT wobbly hand drawn rune images!

    Back into it with one of my favourite runes...

    Uruz

    Elder Futhark: *Ūruz, Proto Germanic, meaning 'auroch' (a type of extinct wild bovine)
    Younger Futhark: r, Old Norse, meaning 'drizzle/rain' or 'dross/slag' (we get these translations from the rune poems... a direct Old Norse translation is very difficult for 'r')
    Anglo Saxon Futhorc: r, Old English, meaning 'auroch'

    Phonetic value: 'u'

    Pronunciation:
    Uruz is easier for American speakers than Aussies or Brits, because the 'Ū' sound is an extended 'oo' like in 'book' or 'look' said with an American accent. In my Aussie accent it's not at all like 'book' or 'look', but is like when you say 'oooh look at that!' or scare someone by shouting 'boo!' (or maybe... like 'wound'). The second 'u' is the same 'oo' sound but shorter (ie not drawn out so far). The ending 'z' is that odd little sound halfway between an r and a z. So we end up with 'OOO-roozh'.

    In Old Norse and Old English the pronunciation of the '' is pretty much the same as above. Aussie speakers have to remember to pronounce the 'r' properly and not let it slide as we're naturally inclined to do when 'r' is at the end of a word.

    The thing to remember with these languages is that 'u' is never pronounced the way it is in modern English (in any accent). I've played with the 'u' sound A LOT, because it makes words like 'Skuld' (which is obviously very important to me and something I think or say on a daily basis) difficult to pronounce properly. We naturally want to say the short 'uh' sound like in 'skull', but it's not that at all. 'Uruz' is a really good word to practice it with, because the structure makes it a lot easier for us to use the extended 'oo' sound at the beginning. If you can remember to carry that sound right through all the rune names (Thurisaz, Ansuz, Wunjo, Laguz etc) and deity names (Skuld, Urdhr, Ullr, Idhunn, Fulla etc) then you're set.

    Now you all reply and add your insights...

    [And a quick reminder, 'cos it's been so long..Pronunciations are what I've put together over the years from a variety of sources. I can maybe dig out a list if I have to, but it involves lots of books and websites, some of which are contradictory. They are based on reconstructed languages that are no longer commonly spoken, NOT on modern German or Scandinavian languages. My advice is that if you want to look at modern languages, Modern Icelandic is the closest to Old Norse, but still has some major differences. Modern Danish, Swedish and Finnish are not accurate representations of Old Norse or Proto Germanic sounds, and while Modern German has some sounds right, it uses different letters and characters to represent them. I've never looked into Old Icelandic, so I don't have those pronunciations for the Younger Futhark runes. American speakers in particular may struggle with my pronunciations as some of the vowel sounds will be quite alien. Having said that, there are a million modern bastardisations of the rune names, so there's nothing wrong with a modern pronunciation it that's what you want to go with.]

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    Re: Rune of the Month

    So I wasn't sure this would work till earlier today but...

    I know the code to link specifically to each new rune's post instead of simply the page and it seems to work with the first one.
    "It is not simply enough to know the lighta Jedi must feel the tension between the two sides of the Forcein himself and in the universe."
    ―Thon

    "When to the Force you truly give yourself, all you do expresses the truth of who you are,"

    Yoda

    Yoda told stories, and ate, and cried, and laughed: and the Padawans saw that life itself was a lightsaber in his hands; even in the face of treachery and death and hopes gone cold, he burned like a candle in the darkness. Like a star shining in the black eternity of space.

    Yoda: Dark Rendezvous

    "But those men who know anything at all about the Light also know that there is a fierceness to its power, like the bare sword of the law, or the white burning of the sun." Suddenly his voice sounded to Will very strong, and very Welsh. "At the very heart, that is. Other things, like humanity, and mercy, and charity, that most good men hold more precious than all else, they do not come first for the Light. Oh, sometimes they are there; often, indeed. But in the very long run the concern of you people is with the absolute good, ahead of all else..."

    John Rowlands, The Grey King by Susan Cooper

    "You come from the Lord Adam and the Lady Eve", said Aslan. "And that is both honour enough to erect the head of the poorest beggar, and shame enough to bow the shoulders of the greatest emperor on earth; be content."

    Aslan, Prince Caspian by CS Lewis



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