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    Re: Saint Patrick's day?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wenny View Post
    ...I am/was/is still a little fluffy about how to view things from a Pagan view point.
    I guess the same way we look at other holidays when we're up to our armpits in non-Pagans celebrating. We can hide in a hole on Christmas (like I do, but I hate Christmas anyway ) or just partake.
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    Re: Saint Patrick's day?

    I have a serious dislike of seeing kilts on those who couldn't tell tartan from argyle if their life depended on it.

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    Re: Saint Patrick's day?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wenny View Post
    I was trying to save myself there (however food color still makes things taste funny) and I am/was/is still a little fluffy about how to view things from a Pagan view point.

    I like fluffy. And I think there is nothing wrong with beign fluffy or offended...as long as you've given thought to the reasons why. I once was on the fence on the subject...the drun=irish merchandise bothers me a bit (My German-descended relatives are *way* more drunks than my Irish ones, but thats what October is for). But now I try to save my ire for things that I think actually are harmful. Heard some quote from a writer on NPR on the way home from work...something likE "the only thinkgs that are life and death matters are life and death". If
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    Re: Saint Patrick's day?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thorbjorn View Post
    I guess the same way we look at other holidays when we're up to our armpits in non-Pagans celebrating. We can hide in a hole on Christmas (like I do, but I hate Christmas anyway ) or just partake.
    My daughter was born on Yule. I want to incorporate Celtic in the holidays but I don't know how.

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    Re: Saint Patrick's day?

    I don't usually join the festivities but any holiday that gives me extra reason to drink is a good holiday!! Sorry if I sound shallow I just enjoy drinking, I don't understand why everything must be green D: Green beer is gross

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    Re: Saint Patrick's day?

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    Green beer is gross
    We did a "scientific experiment" in college--green beer vs regular (the drinkers were blindfolded). The results were unimpressive--the same as you'd expect in a coin toss.

    The flavor difference is actually all in your head (seriously).
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    Re: Saint Patrick's day?

    I wnet to an Irish Festival last summer where the hot dog vendors put green coloring in the sauerkraut. It looked so weird! But of course it tasted the same.

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    Re: Saint Patrick's day?

    Going to go to Chicago (Illinoian) to watch them dye the river green. A lot of Irish heritage in the city, there's a mass celebration.
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    Re: Saint Patrick's day?

    I like kilts. If I could talk my husband into wearing one I'd be a lucky girl because he does have some wonderful calves . However that being said the Scott's are the ones who lay claim to the kilt. In the 19th century there was a "Gaelic Revival" and some not all of the Irish adopted a kilt. They wished to preserve their history more can be read here.

    http://www.scottishtartans.org/irish_kilts.htm

    I can't say I go out and enjoy the festivities of Saint Patrick's day but its not because I am offended rather I don't like dealing with the drunken crowds. I'll drink my tullamore dew or jamason at home. Though dallas does have a huge Saint Patrick's day parade.
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    Re: Saint Patrick's day?

    Quote Originally Posted by kalynraye View Post
    I like kilts. If I could talk my husband into wearing one I'd be a lucky girl because he does have some wonderful calves . However that being said the Scott's are the ones who lay claim to the kilt. In the 19th century there was a "Gaelic Revival" and some not all of the Irish adopted a kilt. They wished to preserve their history more can be read here.
    THIS is sort of what bothers me. I *know* there are good reasons for people to wear kilts and listen to bagpipe music on St. Patrick's day, but around here where I live, most who do smush all the Celt-y things together in one big shamrocky leprechaun tartan plaid package that erases all the history between the different Celtic countries. As someone with both Scots and Irish blood (Lowland Scots, Northern Irish) it's irritating.

    ETA: Kalynrae, I didn't mean to make it sound like *YOU* were being offensive or erasive or anything. I'm just saying that people where *I* live don't have the awareness YOU do. *blushes*

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