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    I like that there is a thing called "The weekend",cause people used to work 6 days 12 hours a day..and Sunday was the only time off. Just like it better when it is called a day off,cause your boss understands you are not a machine. But,a paid holiday is good, and getting paid for not working is very good.
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    Well, here's my state being crazy with the religious 'liberty' again: http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/aft...JtU?li=BBnbcA1

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    This is not going to be popular but it needs to be said.
    A religion - any religion - has the right to refuse to offer its religious rites to those it deems "unacceptable" under the terms of faith. Since a given Christian religion has as part of its doctrine that homosexual acts are a sin, that religion cannot be coerced to perform their right of marriage for a gay couple. This is inferred in the first amendment and has stood in legal decisions over time. The Christian sacrament of marriage can be refused to anyone who is not a member of the church or is not a member in good standing.

    I have performed same gender marriages and even multiple couple marriages in my faith long before the legal system acknowledged them. There is nothing in my faith that restricts these practices. Some, maybe even most churches have beliefs that oppose these marriages. It is their loss and not a loss to same gender couples because there are other ways for them to be married. You can't expect any faith to go against their own teachings.

    It is my faith based and personal feelings that only the gods and goddesses can decide who should be wed.

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    Yeah, whatever, that's not the point. No one is being forced into gay activities or activities that condone gayness. The Bill is designed to be discriminatory as it is a wholly pointless other than to say "we don't like your kind 'round here". Quit pretending this is a Constitutional issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DragonsFriend View Post
    This is not going to be popular but it needs to be said.
    A religion - any religion - has the right to refuse to offer its religious rites to those it deems "unacceptable" under the terms of faith. Since a given Christian religion has as part of its doctrine that homosexual acts are a sin, that religion cannot be coerced to perform their right of marriage for a gay couple. This is inferred in the first amendment and has stood in legal decisions over time. The Christian sacrament of marriage can be refused to anyone who is not a member of the church or is not a member in good standing.

    I have performed same gender marriages and even multiple couple marriages in my faith long before the legal system acknowledged them. There is nothing in my faith that restricts these practices. Some, maybe even most churches have beliefs that oppose these marriages. It is their loss and not a loss to same gender couples because there are other ways for them to be married. You can't expect any faith to go against their own teachings.

    It is my faith based and personal feelings that only the gods and goddesses can decide who should be wed.
    If a religion wants to do what it wants to do privately then I'm all for that. But first pay your taxes and such. No breaks for you if you don't want to follow the United States of America's rules. Just saying. Also those teachings then need to stay in that religion. They cannot be used to sway in government of any kind or level. And you can't use your religion to govern my body or life. I'm not a Christian. I don't have to have sex only when I'm married. And if I want to abort my fetus because I don't want to buy a bigger size of jeans, then you mind your effing business and keep your religious nose out of my life. I'm not a part of your church. Your opinions are then mute.

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    There's a thing going on here in MO now about personalized license plates. http://www.ozarksfirst.com/news/jiha...up-controversy The law states: No personalized license plates shall be issued containing any letters, numbers, or combination of letters and numbers which are obscene, profane, patently offensive or contemptuous of a racial or ethnic group, offensive to good taste or decency, or would present an unreasonable danger to the health or safety of the applicant, or other users of streets and highways, or of the public in any location where the vehicle with such a license plate may be found.

    Somebody has one reading "JIHAD 1" and there's one that reads "HAMAS", and people are going insane. BUT.....a while back, "ARAYAN" was approved due to 'free speech'. So, is JIHAD a religious expression, does it deserve protection under freedom of speech, etc.? I don't have facts but I'd bet the proverbial farm there are plates with Christian-ish words on them that no one blinks an eye at.

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    Honestly, my position on personalized license plates switches back and forth between

    1) Express yourself elsewhere all tags should be randomized

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    2) You want to make your car more memorable in case you break the law? You are willing to pay good money to be easily picked out on the road? Well then, I can help you out. You get a six character limit, it may not imply a government position and I have to verify no one else has it. Otherwise, pick whatever you like. Pictures? Our options are a bit limited right now to guarantee a legible plate but for a small fee we can add a background image
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    I wonder if Rok ever got his Pagan1 plate.
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    Mississippi Church Protection Act. Where a church can designate members to be armed.
    http://www.rawstory.com/2016/03/miss...rmed-security/

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    Part of the Crash course series,this is about freedom of religion here in the US.
    Enjoy:
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