I'm tired of this !@#$...

[Gleb]

Ok guys, I'm in trouble... I usually don't talk about my problems, since I know there are people who have much greater problems than mine. But my problems are still my problems and I have to deal with them and this one, is a problem I can't solve alone.

So some of you probably know I can attend to a scholarship program in the army that gives 1st degree and I give them 3 extra years in return. 6 years of service in army total. At first, I wanted to choose psychology, because it's the only good thing I'm good at. I totally suck at things that require estimation, like maths and physics. But now I heard that psychology is barely needed in the army. And I don't know what to do. I am feeling helpless.

My plans were to get second degree and leave for USA. But now.... I'm in panic. Maybe, I can study logistics - controlling equipment. But it's a waste of time. Once I finish army, I'll have to start from zero. To study psychology again in the uni for first degree and then for the second. All by myself. I barely have support from home. And not because my mother wants to help me but because she has no choice.
Maybe I can have a self-study once I finish army.

But what should I do now? I'm super stressed because of all this..

[Hawkfeathers]

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I don't know how that all works, Gleb - but what is it that you want to be doing with your life in 10+ years? If you can answer that, then follow that path that will take you there. If not, what options do you get in the Army, as to schooling? Can you start out with basic courses that would be required of everyone, giving you more time to make up your mind?

[monsno_leedra]

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Curiosity sake but what were you planning on doing with that degree? Psychology is not a big degree field in the US either unless it's attached to other fields. Sort of like Human Resources with a psychology degree where the psychology is a secondary aspect.

The other thing to consider is that a lot of times having the degree for many businesses is more important than what the degree is in. I have a degree in history and sociology but the school system was more concerned that I had a degree vice what it was in. I saw the same thing quite a bit in the 23 years I served in the military. Granted some fields you had to have a supporting degree. Others, you simply had to have the paper to show focus, dedication and ability to achieve a goal as well as set realistic goals and ability to realize your goal.

6 Years is really not that long of a time when you consider the average time to obtain a typical 4 year degree going full time.

[Little Star]

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I don't know anything about psychology, but I'm in a program for a logistical field, and I can tell you there are a lot of civilian jobs with solid pay in logistics. If you get experience in that in the military, you'll be able to support yourself once you get out and work towards saving up the money to do what you love. There is a lot of estimation involved though -- logistical jobs often overlap with things like master scheduling, transportation, etc. You need to be able to look at how a lot of different things involved in the production and/or transportation of a project all come together.

[Gleb]

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I don't know how that all works, Gleb - but what is it that you want to be doing with your life in 10+ years? If you can answer that, then follow that path that will take you there. If not, what options do you get in the Army, as to schooling? Can you start out with basic courses that would be required of everyone, giving you more time to make up your mind?

I thought about being a psychologist, or something similar to that. In the army I can get a first degree, experience and money. So it's a good deal. Besides my parents don't have the money. (Nor the will to help -_-)

Curiosity sake but what were you planning on doing with that degree? Psychology is not a big degree field in the US either unless it's attached to other fields. Sort of like Human Resources with a psychology degree where the psychology is a secondary aspect.

The other thing to consider is that a lot of times having the degree for many businesses is more important than what the degree is in. I have a degree in history and sociology but the school system was more concerned that I had a degree vice what it was in. I saw the same thing quite a bit in the 23 years I served in the military. Granted some fields you had to have a supporting degree. Others, you simply had to have the paper to show focus, dedication and ability to achieve a goal as well as set realistic goals and ability to realize your goal.

6 Years is really not that long of a time when you consider the average time to obtain a typical 4 year degree going full time.

I know there is a big amount of depressed people in the US. I often hear about it, read about it. I want to help them. Because the mental illnesses are the worst.

I don't know anything about psychology, but I'm in a program for a logistical field, and I can tell you there are a lot of civilian jobs with solid pay in logistics. If you get experience in that in the military, you'll be able to support yourself once you get out and work towards saving up the money to do what you love. There is a lot of estimation involved though -- logistical jobs often overlap with things like master scheduling, transportation, etc. You need to be able to look at how a lot of different things involved in the production and/or transportation of a project all come together.

That sounds great! Perhaps it will help me somehow after all.

[anunitu]

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Having been in the mental health system here,I am going to tell you it is not at all a simple field. Now I was in for major depression,BUT I met a lot of people with much more severe conditions. That is what you would mainly be dealing with,and it is an intense thing to deal with TRUE mental issues,not just depression. Some of the people I saw could be and Had been dangerous at times. So,just a heads up,there are more burn outs and suicides in this field than average so keep that aspect in mind. Constant dealing with broken people can take its toll Gleb.

[monsno_leedra]

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.. I know there is a big amount of depressed people in the US. I often hear about it, read about it. I want to help them. Because the mental illnesses are the worst. ..

But again which one. Abnormal Psychology? Gerontology? Developmental psychology? Educational Psychology? Human resources and business psychology? Anti-socialism? Don't know much about it but know there was something called biological psychology. Then you have group and social psychology dealing with the individual and group dynamics. Just a few of the fields that cause or suffer from mental illness. All of which address various types of mental illness or mental influences based upon multiple triggers and stimulating factors. That's what I see kill so many so often they focus upon something but its so broad its of little to no worth in figuring out what they want to do.

I got the same questions and had to define the same things with my degree in history and sociology. It's a whole lot more than just getting a generic degree in a generic field of study.

[nbdy]

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I have no suggestions, Gleb, but I want the best for you. Your frustration is so apparent; I wish for you clarity and peace.

[Gleb]

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But again which one. Abnormal Psychology? Gerontology? Developmental psychology? Educational Psychology? Human resources and business psychology? Anti-socialism? Don't know much about it but know there was something called biological psychology. Then you have group and social psychology dealing with the individual and group dynamics. Just a few of the fields that cause or suffer from mental illness. All of which address various types of mental illness or mental influences based upon multiple triggers and stimulating factors. That's what I see kill so many so often they focus upon something but its so broad its of little to no worth in figuring out what they want to do.

I got the same questions and had to define the same things with my degree in history and sociology. It's a whole lot more than just getting a generic degree in a generic field of study.

Abnormal Psychology. Taken into attention.

Thank you guys very much! You're the best!

[DanieMarie]

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Would you maybe be interested in being a psychiatrist instead of a psychologist? In a lot of places, the degree path to becoming a psychiatrist involves medical school, which might be more up the army's alley. It would involve some math and science (mostly biology) skills, but maybe you could make it work?

If you don't think you can cut it with the sciences part, maybe you could try something related that would be easy to cross over into psychology, like human resources, social services, or occupational therapy?