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    #16
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    This is so confusing.
    "Turn, and look in the mirror. What do you see?" Her own brown eyes stared back at her until she was nothing but a blur.

    "I see you. Red lipstick spread perfectly over your lush mouth, brown eyes that hold centuries upon centuries of secrets. A face made to entice even the most celibate of men and women alike. A red dress that sways and moves with your body, making you a temptation like no other."

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      #17
      Re: Addiction

      As they say,the house always wins...but that is over time with a few ups and downs..but over time they always win..
      MAGIC is MAGIC,black OR white or even blood RED

      all i ever wanted was a normal life and love.
      NO TERF EVER WE belong Too.
      don't stop the tears.let them flood your soul.




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        #18
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        From your friend Google: Addiction is a substance or action "that can be pleasurable but the continued use/act of which becomes compulsive and interferes with ordinary life responsibilities..."

        As Anton LaVey says, 'indulgence not compulsion', in other words, pleasure over addiction. Addiction keeps you awake at night when you need to go to sleep for work or school for the sake of pornography, drinking to the point of bloody knuckles and walking 3 hours home after 2 am in the rain, for example. Indulgence is staying awake with friends or family on a weekend (your weekend) while talking about life and concepts, and having a hoot, or sexing up a beautiful person, or drinking enough to laugh at the joke that is life and let go of inhibitions, yet still getting on the right bus home or listening to your friend and getting in the car to get safely back to a sleeping environment.

        Addiction hurts in many ways. Nothing fun. All bad.

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          #19
          Re: Addiction

          Originally posted by Bartmanhomer View Post
          I already did my research. Gambling is a tricky one. You'll win so much much if you're lucky but you'll lose a lot of money. Sex is also a tricky one as well. Well I already mention my Porn Addiction thread in the Adult forum. It's give you pleasure and satisfaction in your love love but it'll give you negativity in a long run. So gambling and sex is in the gray area. Self-injury and eating orders is very negative. I can't lie aout that. Shopping is also a tricky one. You get all the items that want but yoou have trouble paying the bills. So shopping it's in the gray area. I'll tell you a story about my first addiction. Many years ago I brought over 20 tarot decks. Was it problematic for me? Yes. Did it ruin my life? No. So anyway I throw all my tarot decks in the garabe and I learn a lesson. The lesson is that I have to be more careful not being over addicted to tarot. Do it in moderation.
          If you did research, you didn't do enough. If you're addicted to something, you lack the ability to do it in moderation. You may have bought 20 tarot decks and threw them away. Maybe you were addicted. Maybe you were just obsessed with the idea of collecting them. And maybe now you can collect decks in moderation. Then you're not currently addicted, because you have the ability to control how much you do it, and not to excess.

          There is no grey area in regards to addiction. Not gambling, not shopping, not sex, nothing. If you are addicted, it's negative. I don't often say this here, but you are wrong, and no matter how many times you say it, it doesn't make the fact that addiction is always negative not a fact. One of the rules here is to not couch personal opinion as fact, which you are clearly doing. You are using addiction to mean activity or even habit. If you have actual research or evidence to the contrary, please post it. Until that time, the medical, psychological, and dictionary definitions of "addiction" disagree with you.
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            #20
            Re: Addiction

            Habballah, I'm sorry that addiction has cause you so many issue but like I said addiction is a tricky subject.

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              #21
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              Originally posted by Bartmanhomer View Post
              Habballah, I'm sorry that addiction has cause you so many issue but like I said addiction is a tricky subject.
              I want evidence of your claim that an addiction can be positive besides personal anecdotes. Please provide some.
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                #22
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                Full disclosure - I haven't read the rest of this thread, because it's three pages long and I don't have time right now.

                But the OP is definitely alarming. I suspect most of the other posts (or all of them) take issue with it as well, but I want to say my piece. There is a HUGE difference between a passion and an addiction. Collecting Pokemon cards, shopping for deals, gaming, etc are hobbies for a lot of people, and they're hobbies that a lot of people are passionate about. Likewise, some people are very enthusiastic about wine, whiskey, gourmet food, and that sort of thing. That's all fine and good, and people can even let those things cross over into a lifestyle without entering addiction territory (for example, I know a few sommeliers and wine dealers who basically live and breathe wine without being alcoholics). An addiction, however, is a different beast. When you have an addiction, you don't consume something; it consumes you. You are not in control, and it starts affecting the rest of your life. Your desire for finding deals while shopping puts you into debt, your alcohol consumption makes you sick, your food consumption makes your weight spiral out of control, your gaming addiction alienates your friends and family, etc. Those aren't fun and enjoyable consequences.

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                  #23
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                  Originally posted by DanieMarie View Post
                  Full disclosure - I haven't read the rest of this thread, because it's three pages long and I don't have time right now.

                  But the OP is definitely alarming. I suspect most of the other posts (or all of them) take issue with it as well, but I want to say my piece. There is a HUGE difference between a passion and an addiction. Collecting Pokemon cards, shopping for deals, gaming, etc are hobbies for a lot of people, and they're hobbies that a lot of people are passionate about. Likewise, some people are very enthusiastic about wine, whiskey, gourmet food, and that sort of thing. That's all fine and good, and people can even let those things cross over into a lifestyle without entering addiction territory (for example, I know a few sommeliers and wine dealers who basically live and breathe wine without being alcoholics). An addiction, however, is a different beast. When you have an addiction, you don't consume something; it consumes you. You are not in control, and it starts affecting the rest of your life. Your desire for finding deals while shopping puts you into debt, your alcohol consumption makes you sick, your food consumption makes your weight spiral out of control, your gaming addiction alienates your friends and family, etc. Those aren't fun and enjoyable consequences.
                  Passion. That's the word I've been going for all the time but couldn't pull out of my brain.
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                    #24
                    Re: Addiction

                    I think BMH is using the wrong word - he is using "addiction," when he means "the occasional use of."

                    Addiction is something else completely.
                    Every moment of a life is a horrible tragedy, a slapstick comedy, dark nihilism, golden illumination, or nothing at all; depending on how we write the story we tell ourselves.

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                      #25
                      Re: Addiction

                      Here's proof: http://www.psychologydictionary.org/positive-addiction/

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                        #26
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                        Because everything the Internet says is totally sound...

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                          #27
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                          Just gonna put this here because it touches on some very valid points about the term 'positive addiction'
                          You remind me of the babe
                          What babe?
                          The babe with the power
                          What power?
                          The Power of voodoo
                          Who do?
                          You do!
                          Do what?
                          Remind me of the babe!

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                            #28
                            Re: Addiction

                            I had a "passion" for booze,BUT I ended up on the floor a lot because I was so passionate:=):
                            MAGIC is MAGIC,black OR white or even blood RED

                            all i ever wanted was a normal life and love.
                            NO TERF EVER WE belong Too.
                            don't stop the tears.let them flood your soul.




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                            my new page here,let me know what you think.


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                              #29
                              Re: Addiction

                              That's my proof of positive addiction.

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                                #30
                                Re: Addiction

                                Does spending the night in Jail seem positive?
                                MAGIC is MAGIC,black OR white or even blood RED

                                all i ever wanted was a normal life and love.
                                NO TERF EVER WE belong Too.
                                don't stop the tears.let them flood your soul.




                                sigpic

                                my new page here,let me know what you think.


                                nothing but the shadow of what was

                                witchvox
                                http://www.witchvox.com/vu/vxposts.html

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